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By sagi58
#388454
Apparently, "most" drivers/teams have their own Twitter account!
Here's the breakdown (in descending order)!

Driver/Team Followers
Alonso 1 909 238
Hamilton 1 857 974
Button 1 660 045
-----Ferrari 696 685
Maldonado 589 195
Perez 555 804
----- McLaren 499 295
Massa 489 110
Rosberg 451 600
----- Red Bull 416 231
----- Mercedes 375 211
----- Lotus 360 316
Hulkenberg 231 728
Grosjean 230 014
----- Williams 198 597
----- Sauber 180 467
----- Force India 177 663
----- Marussia 169 254
----- Caterham 167 353
Pic 163 068
Ricciardo 161 983
----- Toro Rosso 125 103
Vergne 110 520
Chilton 80 187
Bianchi 76 889
van der Garde 68 326
Bottas 51 998
Magnussen 28 934
Sutil 17 189
Kvyat 11 773
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By 1Lemon
#388457
How is lotus not higher? The guy who runs their Twitter is hilarious.
By CookinFlat6
#388458
With social media its important to understand how to analyse the raw data to get an idea of true fan reach.

Impact indicators measure results. Competition indicators put all indicators in context by comparing them to numbers attained by other brands vying for attention.


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So for example this chart suggests that 16% of the headline number is the amount of fans

So simply adjusting those headline numbers to be more accurate would show the following 'true fan following out of all those reached, if applied to the twitter follower numbers for example;
Alonso - 305,478
Lewis - 297,275
Ferrari - 111,469

Or it could be that the headline numbers are only 16% of the total fans who could be reached

The key is that the same calculations are applied to all competitors, Lewis and Alonso still appear to have more fans than the biggest team
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By spankyham
#388460
The only way you could count a drivers pure following would be to remove them from any team. Ditto for teams, remove the drivers. As long as Alonso wears red an undetermined number of his followers will be Ferrari fans following their driver. Likewise some of Ferrari's following will be Alonso fans following his current team.

Ergo you cannot compare a driver to team. What you can compare is driver-in-teamX to a team-with-driversA&B.
By CookinFlat6
#388462
Through F1 history, certain drivers have acquired a cult following and popularity that has transcended any team. There can be no dispute about this. It may be a team sport but the facts are that the sportsmen - the drivers are the focal point for the majority.
For example the WDC title was around long beofre the WCC was introduced as a way of regonising and rewarding team effort. Even now most followers are more interested in the WDC chase than the WCC

If anything I think the driver popularity numbers are distorted for Ferrari drivers uniquely. i.e. Ferrari is such a powerful brand and has its own cult following that any driver who goes there immediately becomes a lot more popular. Therefore alonsos popularity is hugely based on Ferraris following

Whereas Lewis' following will be 'purer' We know for a fact that his entry in 2007 led to a reversqal of declining viewing numbers and was followed by a wider global reach as well as wider sponsor appeal.
We also know that when he left McLaren and joined Merc, there was a big transfer of support to Merc.

IMHO, one could say Ferrari make Alonso more popular but Lewis makes Merc more popular

This can be confirmed by looking at the last ranking of the marketeability of global sportsmen. Lewis was higher than Alonso. I.e according to the experts Lewis will sell more product i.e has more followers/more appeal globally
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By sagi58
#388476
...Whereas Lewis' following will be 'purer' We know for a fact that his entry in 2007 led to a reversal of declining viewing numbers and was followed by a wider global reach as well as wider sponsor appeal...

Are you taking into consideration all the hype in the British media with his arrival at McLaren?
As I remember the sense seemed to be that Hamilton was always going to win everything.
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By sagi58
#388487
I remember the Italian media saying the same when Alonso arrived.

Yup... but, without a competitive car, the Tifosi recognize Alonso's efforts!
Unfortunately, with Hamilton it's always been one rationalization after
another and many end up back at the old bias "against" him comments!
#388490
I remember the Italian media saying the same when Alonso arrived.

Yup... but, without a competitive car, the Tifosi recognize Alonso's efforts!
Unfortunately, with Hamilton it's always been one rationalization after
another and many end up back at the old bias "against" him comments!

You're free to your multitudes of unsubstantiated opinions.
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By sagi58
#388494
You're free to your multitudes of unsubstantiated opinions.

Thank you, I appreciate the opportunity to share them with other F1 fans, on this forum!

By the way, opinions do not need to be substantiated, unless they are presented by the legal/medical profession!
I am neither a lawyer nor am I a doctor. This is a forum, not a court of law nor a doctor's office.
As a member of this forum, I would assume I am entitled to share my subjective opinions, especially since I have
not made it a state secret that I am a Ferrari fan. You need only look at my signature/avatar to recognize the
perspective from which I offer those opinions. :wink:
#388495
I agree they don't need to be substantiated, but when you're willing to argue for them then they're no longer an opinion and the argument has to have a foundational basis. For example, I can say it is my opinion that I can walk on water, and leave it at that. It remains my opinion, (some may say delusion) however if I'm going to argue with someone that my opinion supersedes their "opinion" proof is the only way to do so.

You can't expect your opinion to be respected equally to someone who's opinion is that I can't walk on water given that we live in a world with physical laws. But like I said, you're free to have as many opinions as you want, it's what makes forums a riot. :hehe:
By Hammer278
#388507
I remember the Italian media saying the same when Alonso arrived.

Yup... but, without a competitive car, the Tifosi recognize Alonso's efforts!
Unfortunately, with Hamilton it's always been one rationalization after
another and many end up back at the old bias "against" him comments!


Are you trying to convince yourself or others about this? :confused:

According to you, the "Tifosi" recognize Alonso's efforts, while the British media keep making excuses for Hamilton's efforts. Do you see why your opinion doesn't hold any weight whatsoever? It's pure personal conjecture!! Even Luca De Whatshisname (the leader in Ferrari) has questioned Alonso's qualifying speed more than once saying he's not getting everything out of the car on a Saturday. And when you have a teammate like Massa, there's no way you can depend solely on Alonso's words and analysis of the car's ability.

His old 'trick' of "this car isn't good enough" has become just that - old. In 2011 I thought he was being very unfair on the car and team's efforts playing it down to be a midfield car and many actually believed he was able to defy the laws of physics and compete for the WDC till the end. Garbage. The fact that Alonso is no Demi-God and can't overcome the laws of physics is proof enough that he was outright lying about the car's ability. It managed to take him to the last race fighting for the WDC. So the "efforts" you speak of is based solely on Alonso's words. How do you know he's being 100% truthful with his opinions? You have no idea.
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