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LewEngBridewell wrote:Lol, McLaren is going to s#ck next year . . . (not likely). But anyway, happy holidays to all, and as always, PEACE!darwin dali wrote:Just dishing out my fair share of nonsensical fanboyism.LewEngBridewell wrote:Ever tried decaf? It really works for cases like yoursThe Ram wrote:Mclaren is gonna be lame next year. The won't be winning anything at all.McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAH
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LewEngBridewell wrote:It would be foolish to completely write off McLaren at this moment in time.The Ram wrote:Mclaren is gonna be lame next year. The won't be winning anything at all.McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAH
andrew wrote:Well...considering they have achieved squat since Whitmarsh took over, I don't know about that. And considering the slower driver has remained in the team, McLaren might want to do something highly innovative to have a chance of a WDC. Considering the only innovative thing they've done in the past 10 years is the F-duct, I won't bet too much of my capital on them. A couple of wins...a couple of poles thanks to Perez, and that should be a 'successful' season by 2013 McLaren standards.LewEngBridewell wrote:It would be foolish to completely write off McLaren at this moment in time.The Ram wrote:Mclaren is gonna be lame next year. The won't be winning anything at all.McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAH
Hammer278 wrote:McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAHandrew wrote:Well...considering they have achieved squat since Whitmarsh took over, I don't know about that. And considering the slower driver has remained in the team, McLaren might want to do something highly innovative to have a chance of a WDC. Considering the only innovative thing they've done in the past 10 years is the F-duct, I won't bet too much of my capital on them. A couple of wins...a couple of poles thanks to Perez, and that should be a 'successful' season by 2013 McLaren standards.LewEngBridewell wrote:It would be foolish to completely write off McLaren at this moment in time.The Ram wrote:Mclaren is gonna be lame next year. The won't be winning anything at all.McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAH
LewEngBridewell wrote:How very original of youHammer278 wrote:McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAHandrew wrote:Well...considering they have achieved squat since Whitmarsh took over, I don't know about that. And considering the slower driver has remained in the team, McLaren might want to do something highly innovative to have a chance of a WDC. Considering the only innovative thing they've done in the past 10 years is the F-duct, I won't bet too much of my capital on them. A couple of wins...a couple of poles thanks to Perez, and that should be a 'successful' season by 2013 McLaren standards.LewEngBridewell wrote:It would be foolish to completely write off McLaren at this moment in time.The Ram wrote:Mclaren is gonna be lame next year. The won't be winning anything at all.McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAH
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
darwin dali wrote:LewEngBridewell wrote:How very original of youHammer278 wrote:McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAHandrew wrote:Well...considering they have achieved squat since Whitmarsh took over, I don't know about that. And considering the slower driver has remained in the team, McLaren might want to do something highly innovative to have a chance of a WDC. Considering the only innovative thing they've done in the past 10 years is the F-duct, I won't bet too much of my capital on them. A couple of wins...a couple of poles thanks to Perez, and that should be a 'successful' season by 2013 McLaren standards.LewEngBridewell wrote:It would be foolish to completely write off McLaren at this moment in time.The Ram wrote:Mclaren is gonna be lame next year. The won't be winning anything at all.McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAH
LewEngBridewell wrote:Whitmarsh is now going into year 4 of being in charge of McLaren. Compare that to the same presiod of Ron Dennis. Whitmarsh is so far doing better.Hammer278 wrote:McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAHandrew wrote:Well...considering they have achieved squat since Whitmarsh took over, I don't know about that. And considering the slower driver has remained in the team, McLaren might want to do something highly innovative to have a chance of a WDC. Considering the only innovative thing they've done in the past 10 years is the F-duct, I won't bet too much of my capital on them. A couple of wins...a couple of poles thanks to Perez, and that should be a 'successful' season by 2013 McLaren standards.LewEngBridewell wrote:It would be foolish to completely write off McLaren at this moment in time.The Ram wrote:Mclaren is gonna be lame next year. The won't be winning anything at all.McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAH
LewEngBridewell wrote:Hammer278 wrote:McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAHandrew wrote:Well...considering they have achieved squat since Whitmarsh took over, I don't know about that. And considering the slower driver has remained in the team, McLaren might want to do something highly innovative to have a chance of a WDC. Considering the only innovative thing they've done in the past 10 years is the F-duct, I won't bet too much of my capital on them. A couple of wins...a couple of poles thanks to Perez, and that should be a 'successful' season by 2013 McLaren standards.LewEngBridewell wrote:It would be foolish to completely write off McLaren at this moment in time.The Ram wrote:Mclaren is gonna be lame next year. The won't be winning anything at all.McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAH
andrew wrote:Is he really? Ron took over Mclaren in 81, in 84 he won 12 out of 16 races and both championships.LewEngBridewell wrote:Whitmarsh is now going into year 4 of being in charge of McLaren. Compare that to the same presiod of Ron Dennis. Whitmarsh is so far doing better.Hammer278 wrote:McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAHandrew wrote:Well...considering they have achieved squat since Whitmarsh took over, I don't know about that. And considering the slower driver has remained in the team, McLaren might want to do something highly innovative to have a chance of a WDC. Considering the only innovative thing they've done in the past 10 years is the F-duct, I won't bet too much of my capital on them. A couple of wins...a couple of poles thanks to Perez, and that should be a 'successful' season by 2013 McLaren standards.LewEngBridewell wrote:It would be foolish to completely write off McLaren at this moment in time.The Ram wrote:Mclaren is gonna be lame next year. The won't be winning anything at all.McLaren will be the best and they will win everything and they will beat all records and they will shizzle all over everyone else and they will be amazing like they always are and I will always love them F!CK YEAH
have faith Lew.
racechick wrote:Is he really? Ron took over Mclaren in 81, in 84 he won 12 out of 16 races and both championships.Dennis took over in 1980. 80 - 9th, 81 - 6th, 82 - 2nd, 83 - 5th and 84 - 1st.
Pror to that he cadged three chassis off a friend, bought some rusty engines off Benie Ecclestone on HP and converted a horsebox to transport them to races. This was F2. He managed to get Graham Hill to drive one of his cars. In his FIRST RACE his drivers came 2nd and 5th and in his SECOND RACE he won. He was 23 years old and team manager. I'd say Whitmarsh has a way to go to come close to that.
andrew wrote:Yeah...using the empire which RD built and being under his guide for over a decade. There have been no major rule changes since Whitmarsh took over.racechick wrote:Is he really? Ron took over Mclaren in 81, in 84 he won 12 out of 16 races and both championships.Dennis took over in 1980. 80 - 9th, 81 - 6th, 82 - 2nd, 83 - 5th and 84 - 1st.
Pror to that he cadged three chassis off a friend, bought some rusty engines off Benie Ecclestone on HP and converted a horsebox to transport them to races. This was F2. He managed to get Graham Hill to drive one of his cars. In his FIRST RACE his drivers came 2nd and 5th and in his SECOND RACE he won. He was 23 years old and team manager. I'd say Whitmarsh has a way to go to come close to that.
Whitmarsh took over in 2009. 09 - 3rd, 10 - 2nd, 11 - 2nd, 12 - 3rd.
So saying that Whitmarsh is not doing an acceptable job is in fact rubbish. McLaren have remained in the top 3 under his tenure despite having a somewhat unreliable car at times. Even their harshest critic has to admit that that is pretty good going.
As for Ron Dennis' life story, I could give a flying fig. It is irrelevant.
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