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As you can see (had you read my post more carefully) I said McLaren guyS, plural as in more than one, not YOU in particular, the whole lot of you guys who are engaged in this clusterfook of Ferrari bashing.
Woody2Goody wrote : Come to think of it they made dubious sporting decisions in '02 and '04 when they were dominating, so maybe they need to be brought down a peg or two. They are the most arrogant team in F1 by far. I was a Ferrari fan before they developed this 'win at all costs mentality'. F1 needs to consider it's morals as well as it's image from time to time.
Mikep99 wrote : AKR wrote:
2007 was Ferrari's 60th anniversary and it has been a known
fact that if they did not win the constructors championship
that they would of lost millions of dollars.
So Ferrari is the only team that wins money if it is champion??
I would have though the FIA had a bigger marketing tool if a Rookie won the thing,
AKR wrote:
A setup perhaps? Maybe just maybe Stepnay was setup. He
was delibrately given the Ferrari documents by Ferrari to
give to Coughan and then the rest was all a pretence to
make it look like a scandal and McLaren gets done. I would
believe this. Why not?.
Tell me HOW do you deliberately give documents to someone who already has access to it
Tell me HOW you make someone give sensitive information to your main opposition & get them to believe your not setting them up. Stepnay must be a DH
Tell me HOW you make an employee from another team use this information inappropriately.
AKR wrote:
If McLaren's car is as quick as
Ferrari's and legit and they now have a big chance to
clinch the title and if Ferrari don't win they will loose
millions why not stuff the oppenent up through the legal
system instead? When all was very much lost Ferrari said the
only chance they had of winning was throughh the courts.
A chance they had good odds at since the scandal was all
made for Ferrari.
Ferrari only considered everything was lost very late in the season just before McLaren self distrusted.
Tell me how Ferrari knew on or before 28-4-07 (The date the documents were supposedly exchanged) that they would be behind the eight ball later on in the year.
As of the 28-4-07 Ferrari had 2 Firsts & 2 Thirds - McLaren had 1 first 3 seconds & 1 Thirds. This is hardly panic mode material for them to consider setting up McLaren just to win.
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
As you can see (had you read my post more carefully) I said McLaren guyS, plural as in more than one, not YOU in particular, the whole lot of you guys who are engaged in this clusterfook of Ferrari bashing.
I am neither Ferrari fan nor McL fan (although I do find the Ferrari behaviour and its links with FIA to be less than honest) and, as I see it, Ferrari fans do as much McL bashing as McL does to Ferrari so it seems to me to be a tit for tat situation.
It makes good reading though and some of the ways that you guys find to insult each other are quite amusing - but nothing more!.
I like 'clusterfook' DD. Where does that come from?
), just guys - and we in America call even girls collectively guys - guys who engage in Ferrari bashing from a McLaren-friendly point of view. 
Any hopes that unfounded criticism and anti-Ferrari rumor mills would subside now that even the blindest McLaren fan should have realized that McLaren don't walk on water and are as dirty as Harry, are thoroughly shattered Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. I'm not religious, so this metaphor doesn't apply to me.
well dont worship Schumi and Ferrari in a religious manner then
I didn't call you guys 'fans' either (for a reason ), just guys - and we in America call even girls collectively guys - guys who engage in Ferrari bashing from a McLaren-friendly point of view.
And no - objectively Ferrari gets bashed way more than McLaren. It changed a bit since last year for a good reason, because McLaren got caught red-handed CHEATING Any hopes that unfounded criticism and anti-Ferrari rumor mills would subside now that even the blindest McLaren fan should have realized that McLaren don't walk on water and are as dirty as Harry, are thoroughly shattered .
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When Ferrari purposely disobeyed the sport's rules in Japan by putting on the wrong tyres, they were only punished by getting drive throughs i think.
They didn't break the rules on purpose. They didn't get the email that made wet tires mandatory. They could prove that and the protocol since has changed, i.e., it's email plus the old fashioned way that communications are delivered to the teams.
aside from the "email story" which even super aguri managed to get, maybe its the shitty acer computers Ferrari use?but wouldnt it be common sense that you would start on the tyre made for extreme wet conditions if the start of the race is under the safety car?
its not like race control just decided it would be fun to start the race that way eh?
I didn't call you guys 'fans' either (for a reason
And no - objectively Ferrari gets bashed way more than McLaren. It changed a bit since last year for a good reason, because McLaren got caught red-handed CHEATING
WhatEVER
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