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[Hammer278]

Mods, any chance we can merge this thread with this...

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=11289&start=270

They're practically the same.

As WB said, this thread is geared towards next year...when they won't be teammates. That thread is for 2012?

[LewEngBridewell]

Mods, any chance we can merge this thread with this...

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=11289&start=270

They're practically the same.

As WB said, this thread is geared towards next year...when they won't be teammates. That thread is for 2012?

Same topic though.

If they're merged, the thread will not have the 2012 in the name.

[andrew]

Mods, any chance we can merge this thread with this...

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=11289&start=270

They're practically the same.

As WB said, this thread is geared towards next year...when they won't be teammates. That thread is for 2012?

Same topic though.

If they're merged, the thread will not have the 2012 in the name.

Oh aye.

[Jabberwocky]

I think this ends the thread once and for all

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/11/h ... t-mclaren/

[vlad]

As expected. Hamilton pushes, Button plays wisely and in the end still gets more points.

[andrew]

So it's a draw then? Not a huge points difference really.

[Jabberwocky]

They look even in that write up. I thought it was quite fair as well.

[Hammer278]

As expected. Hamilton pushes, Button plays wisely and in the end still gets more points.

Well yes...when you easily dismiss Hamiltons DNFs while leading GPs this season and the numerous f**ckups by his team? Lewis lost easily 75 points this season and that's not even taking pit stop failures and the fuel messup in Barcelona into account.

Typical JB fan writeup. If we're talking strictly facts and figures, Hamilton 2 to Buttons 1, end of story.

[vlad]

What ifs won't get you anywhere...

[Hammer278]

What ifs won't get you anywhere...

True, which is why the hard facts is Lewis 2, Button 1 Lewis wins during this partnership even with a load of sh*t thrown at him, period.

[racechick]

He lost more than 75 Hammer, over 110 conservative estimate Ive read. It's not just the retirements from the lead. There's the fuel screw up, the pitstop screw ups, the roll bar failure, the other rear wing failure, the puncture, the other two crash kids, the list is very long.

[Hammer278]

He lost more than 75 Hammer, over 110 Ive read. It's not just the retirements from the lead. There's the fuel screw up, the pitstop screw ups, the roll bar failure, the other rear wing failure, the puncture, the other two crash kids, the list is very long.

Yeah, but when the stats seem to suit the lame duck in the team, his fans come out in droves talking facts since whatifs do not matter. So let's disregard all those whatifs, and just keep it black and white, 2:1, Lewis wins the partnership and now we can watch how McLaren handles themselves with Button leading them in 2013.

[racechick]

True, Lewis wins without the what ifs. But Jesus,what an incredible list of 'what ifs!!

[andrew]

What ifs don't bring in the points so are irrelevant in the final analysis.

[Nin-Chin]

Australia-clutch software issue,bad strategy
Malaysia-bad strategy and pit stops
China-gearbox.....
Bahrain-awful pit stops
Spain-fuel,costing him a potential win.
Monaco-poor strategy and pit stops.
Canada-nothing for once
Valencia-bad stop and crashtor takes him out
GB-no pace
Germany-Puncture,gearbox
Hungary-no issues
Spa-bad set up,taken out by crashjean
Monza-win.
Singapore-Gearbox costing him a win
Japan-set up issues/suspension
Korea-rear anti roll bar
India-no pace on softs
Abu Dhabi-fuel pump,another win lost
USA-1st.
Brazil-screwed while in the lead..again.

u do the maths