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#336526
Does anyone knows what Vettel said on the team radio, after Horner congratulated him? His radio was so messed up, I couldn't understand a thing.
#336527
If you look at the Sky animation, it is clear that there is no way Vettel could have seen Senna. All he could see in his right mirror was Räikkönen, and his left mirror was taken up by di Resta, who he was well clear of.
#336528
Senna came in that corner out of nowhere, carrying huge speed, it was just impossible to spot him. And, by the time he shown himself behind Di Resta's car, he was, I don't know how you call it, but we call it something like "dead corner" or "blind spot" of Vettel's mirrors.
#336539
Senna came in that corner out of nowhere, carrying huge speed, it was just impossible to spot him. And, by the time he shown himself behind Di Resta's car, he was, I don't know how you call it, but we call it something like "dead corner" or "blind spot" of Vettel's mirrors.

Well you can't blame Senna either, he had the inside line coming through the corner minding his own business. You cant ask another driver to disappear or go onto to grass or something, just because Vettel coming from one side of the track to the other in a corner he knows is crowded, no matter how many consecutive championships he has.
#336541
Senna came in that corner out of nowhere, carrying huge speed, it was just impossible to spot him. And, by the time he shown himself behind Di Resta's car, he was, I don't know how you call it, but we call it something like "dead corner" or "blind spot" of Vettel's mirrors.

Well you can't blame Senna either, he had the inside line coming through the corner minding his own business. You cant ask another driver to disappear or go onto to grass or something, just because Vettel coming from one side of the track to the other in a corner he knows is crowded, no matter how many consecutive championships he has.



I'm not blaming Senna, not after I've seen it all. It was just an unavoidable racing incident, in this case.
#336542
Senna came in that corner out of nowhere, carrying huge speed, it was just impossible to spot him. And, by the time he shown himself behind Di Resta's car, he was, I don't know how you call it, but we call it something like "dead corner" or "blind spot" of Vettel's mirrors.

Well you can't blame Senna either, he had the inside line coming through the corner minding his own business. You cant ask another driver to disappear or go onto to grass or something, just because Vettel coming from one side of the track to the other in a corner he knows is crowded, no matter how many consecutive championships he has.



I'm not blaming Senna, not after I've seen it all. It was just an unavoidable racing incident, in this case.

Unavoidable if Vettel would have stayed on the outside, but i do understand why he chose to do what he did. He would have potentially lost a lot of places behind slower drivers and had already been passed by couple. Totally understandable Vettel didnt want to hang around watching a stream of F1 cars pass him. It's just a shame it ended Peréz and Sennas race.
#336547
Like I said yesterday, sometimes to win a WDC the planets align just right with the moon in the correct phase and voila, you escape a multi car collision you caused with no meaningful damage to your vehicle while causing others to retire from the race. If that had been Grosjean, he wouldn't be returning to the sport next year. :hehe:

Me thinks Vettel used up all of next year's allotment of luck with that bullet dodged. At least he got a WDC out of it! It was an entertaining race indeed... I was physically exhausted by lap 25!
#336565
ANYway: congratulations to SV for a great achievement. Triple Worldchampion :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

How about making it 4 in a row next year? Can you imagine? CAN YOU IMAGINE the comparisons with MS this young man would have to endure? And then the pressure to do it 5 times in a row! :yikes:
#336567
What a fabulous end to the season! Of course I would have liked a slightly different end :) but all the same it was a great season. My thoughts on the race and results:-

1) got to start with a congratulations to Seb on winning his 3rd WDC. A worthy winner. I liked his post race interview. If, as I have speculated he did end up at Ferrari I would be very happy with that.
2) Fernando - words can't describe what a great champion I think this guy is. The way he fought to the finish was great. The way he accepted the result was equally great. What he got out of the car the whole season showed why so many believe he is the best driver around.
3) Ferrari team - the way the team worked together was excellent. Improving to 2nd in both championships this year. They took huge chances at the start of the season and, whilst the design had problems and their wind tunnel caused more grief, the team worked brilliantly to get the best they could each race. No failures for a whole season is testament to their work.
4) Everyone gets luck - sometimes good and sometimes bad. Vettel fans can rightly point to his alternator problems. What happened Seb;s first time through T4 in yesterday's race was a year's worth of good luck I guess. The one thing I will say about the alternator thing is, in the end it is part of what the team creates and tests, so, there was some influence the team had on that. The Spa incident for Nando was just something that he and the team had absolutely no control over. Nando had points taken from him there that were truly out of his control - bad luck if you will.
5) Felipe's revival is complete - Seeing Felipe standing on the podium was excellent and he will be a much greater force to rekon with next year
6) Webber - Really great to see him doing the team thing in the race.
7) Team Orders - are they really the bogeyman people fear? IMO absolutely not. I've always said this is a team sport, and doing the team thing makes the sport better. Watching all the team things being done during this race really added a lot to the spectacle for me and I wish there was more of it.
8 ) Schumi - congrats to him, his comeback was a bit ho hum but the car was never there. He still is a great driver and his records are all still there.
9) Lewis - absolutely deserved the win IMO and I was really sad he couldn't go out on the right note. For the Lewis fans I feel for you all. It is so tough watching your guy get taken out beyond his control. He deserved to be fighting for the title in Brazil. He, Seb and Nando are the class of the field.
10) The Hulk - ever so nearly delivered on the promise. I'm sure with the right car he will be able to go that little step further and stand atop the podium.

I'm sure there's heaps more I've missed out on, but all in all a great race and super season.

This is all history now, and all I can say is ..... roll on 2013!!!
#336579
Sorry if this has been covered but just watched highlights didn't see it all yesterday, why was Seb not punished for overtaking under yellows?
#336584
Sorry if this has been covered but just watched highlights didn't see it all yesterday, why was Seb not punished for overtaking under yellows?

The answer to this very important question can be found discussed in detail on the last five or six pages of this thread. :yes:

...since your post was about an hour ago, I'm thinking you went back and read it already.
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