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[bud]

I just don't believe in the conspiracy theories.

unless they involve 911 right

But yeah the British press are fair weather supporters, Just like a Scot is a Brit when he is winning, once he starts losing he is a Scot.

[Hammer278]

I just don't believe in the conspiracy theories.

unless they involve 911 right

But yeah the British press are fair weather supporters, Just like a Scot is a Brit when he is winning, once he starts losing he is a Scot.

Reminiscing Coulthard times are we?

[FRAFPDD]

- Vettel, in 2010 he made some seriously dodgy errors and mistakes that almost blighted a campaign that really should (and was) for red bull to win all year long.
This season he has been almost sublime, hardly a whisker of mistakes, like red bull had spent the 2010 off-season focused on placing programmable computer chips in Vettels head, the only mistakes coming with the teething issues of such advanced stuff!!!

Vettels weekend in Monza was rubberstamped with victory from the moment he took pole position, throughout the race he was supreme. Many questions from myself also have arisen about Vettels capability as a racer, only his overtake on Fernando Alonso on the grass needed to be seen to effectively end those questions, overtaking anyone in such a fashion is outstanding let alone a double world champion in a ferrari in italy. Took serious gonads to make that one stick. The fact that we expect weekends like this for Vettel is probably the most telling factor, i pretty much now rate him up with Hamilton and Alonso, the other two i feel do have advantages in other respects, Hamilton can get the most out of underperfoming cars and is the best toe to toe racer, Alonso is a better thinker but Vettel could well be the fastest out of all three.

However there are a few things id like Vettel fans in particular to take note of, I personally, and i feel many others feel to, am DYING to see what Minerals Vettel can produce when all is not going so well, He hasnt actually had a seasons with a supermely poor car, ever, this makes him in the same boat as Hamilton and he managed the same sort of stuff, his 2008 car was a regular point finisher, as he finished, and he has had teammates that have so far been completely flattering to whoever was racing them. If nothing else in the next few years i am massivly intrigued to see what he can do when the chips are down and his car isnt as good as it is. It doesnt matter if Vettel wins Singapore by 6 mintues he HAS to prove himself with a top flight teammate in a non dominant car before we can start making the Senna comparisons, i personally feel Vettel is the most Senna like racer of out all of them, pushed the limits with blocking etc, SUPREME qualifier, and wins his races by flying off and hacing a sunday drive, thats not a criticism, thats a style of racing that hes adopted. Unfortunately for the sake of racing and championship battles next year he will have the same kind of advantage.



- Hamilton, i may be a fan but i was massively impressed by him today, considering he has such a bad, and in my opinion, unjustified reputation of being super aggressive ( i think hes only aggressive when qualifying, as in, hes not smooth) based purely on his ballsy maneouveures, hes actually one of the cleanest racers there are, and today proved it. Hamilton spent about 90 percent of the whole grand prix in positions where he could make yet another DNF or mistake that costs the race, and he was flawless, absolutely flawless too. He was riht behind schumacher for so many laps and he didnt try massive outbraking moves, he let it come to him, then he had jenson behind and kept the cool. He later didnt try any banzai moves against Alonso despite probably massively wanting too.
Unfortunately Lewis is probably the single most unfortunate racer this season coupled with the stewards blatant firmly held impressions that blight objectivity means his results arent reflective on how good he is. Unfortunately he made another rookie error in the safety car restart and that cost him, althuogh Mclaren did definitely go wrong in the setup department.

- Mclaren, what is up with them? They come to a race theyre good enough to wwin at IF THEY JUST FOLLOW THE TREND OF EVERYONE ELSE, and they go on do something completely different to get an edge they dont need to search for, and lose races because of it.

In Silverstone they underfuelled Hamilton, in Spa they cut his top speed that Kobayashi could catch him when Hamilton had passed with DRS!!!, in Monza they made his top speed with DRS equal to Schumachers without, so many of Hamiltons results this year can be 100 percent attributed to Mclarens tomfoolery and stupid mistakes, they need to pick it up unless they want to lose one of the best talents ever in f1.

- Jenson Button. Impressing me more and more every race, its a crying shame he got "into" his career so late and can only fight like this since 2009 really. But hes a worthy champion and hes obviously taken lesson from Lew (and given out more! lol) in overtaking and such. Good solid finishes for him, Lewis performs best when against a worthy teammate (Alonso, Button)


- Sauber, well theyve seriously dropped back, im pretty sure both Sauber dropped out today with exactly the same problem, unacceptably, need to pick it up. FI have now overtaken them in the standings, luckily the last tracks left suit Sauber a lot so they should come back to point finishes, both of their strategies were paying off today until unreliability kicked in. A shame.

- Schumacher- Want to keep this short and sweet, Schumacher learnt from the very best of dirty drivers, Senna, he moulded himself on being as successful and his moves were allowed to riot free from his early career days, he is the last of them to do that and he wont and cant be changed by the end of his career, after some thought only once today did he move more then twice, heading into the lesmos, it was on the limit and Hamilton rued the mistake of the safety car phase, he is looking better and better though. Why he let Button through so easily i dont know, im getting the sneaking feeling a lot of drivers are jealous and pathetic when it comes to Hamilton on track, they seem to like to piss him off.


Alonso- Great start juts like Spain, seems to be urged by friendly crowds, unfortunate in one way to not have the legs to fight for the win, fortunate with schumacher to keep third place. Solid drive.


Liuzzi- LOL.

[LewEngBridewell]

Alonso leading the championship!! yay!!!!

Didn't realise a 3rd place was worth well over 100 points.....

[Ineluke]

It makes me sick when people say that Lewis had a great team from the start and that his talent is not there. Can we remember Button walking into a top team and beating a double world champion in his first F1 season. Jenson was busy crashing for the first 8 years of his career, so it's laughable now, that he thinks he's any kind of leader.

He's a good driver and no mistake, but I think he's getting ahead of himself thinking he's the leader........

This is what i mean by Jensen having to finish ahead of Lewis now,he will look like an idiot and the BBC team will be to blame for putting dumb thoughts into his head.

[f1boy]

Agree Ineluke, Lewis is treated disgracefully imo. He is the best driver on the grid imo. Let's sit Lewis in a Red Bull opposite Seb and lets see who's the best. Sebs a lightweight, just like Jenson.

Good drivers, but they don't have the class of Lewis. Again, remember his first season in F1. The best rookie we've ever seen (even in a top team, Alonso was getting pissed right off at how fast Lewis actually was.)

[andrew]

I am awake, I just don't believe in the conspiracy theories. You mark my words, if Hamilton is ahead on points again, the British media will be all over him again.

What is your definition of "all over him again"? I dont see them desperate to find out if he is the team leader in McLaren when he was leading Jenson on points...which was throughout his career except for the last 2 weeks???[/quote]

I mean they'll fall back in love with him again. The British press are extremely fickle. Hamilton had a poor showing in Spa and the tabloids are putting the boot in (one of them labelled him Whamilton and ran a report about 6 of his best accidents - really poor form kicking a guy when he's down) - totally uncalled for and quite sad to see. There is a lot of chat about Button at the moment with regards to his contract for next year so everything he is asked in interviews is going to be a loaded question. It is very poor and inconsistent reporting I know but it is nothing new.

But yeah the British press are fair weather supporters, Just like a Scot is a Brit when he is winning, once he starts losing he is a Scot.

Exactly. When someone is doing well, they are British but when things take a down-turn they are English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish.

[FRAFPDD]

I just don't believe in the conspiracy theories.

unless they involve 911 right

But yeah the British press are fair weather supporters, Just like a Scot is a Brit when he is winning, once he starts losing he is a Scot.

Thats the tabloid press, the worst in the world, not the entire population of Britain or Englands thoughts.

I support Murray and Coultard and such as much as i do englishman, cause theyre from the same nation, Britain.

Scotland, Wales, NI dont mean jack to me, theyre so small and unpopulated that they should be regions anyway, not of england, englands so diverse it should be regions too. Cornish have nothing in common with scousers and londoners with geordies.

This quote is for you andrew, seeing your latest response.

[andrew]

I just don't believe in the conspiracy theories.

unless they involve 911 right

But yeah the British press are fair weather supporters, Just like a Scot is a Brit when he is winning, once he starts losing he is a Scot.

Thats the tabloid press, the worst in the world, not the entire population of Britain or Englands thoughts.

Granted, but the tabloids have a massive circulation compared to the more reputable papers, mainly 'cos they're cheap (and nasty).

[acosmichippo]

I am awake, I just don't believe in the conspiracy theories. You mark my words, if Hamilton is ahead on points again, the British media will be all over him again.

What is your definition of "all over him again"? I dont see them desperate to find out if he is the team leader in McLaren when he was leading Jenson on points...which was throughout his career except for the last 2 weeks???

I mean they'll fall back in love with him again. The British press are extremely fickle. Hamilton had a poor showing in Spa and the tabloids are putting the boot in (one of them labelled him Whamilton and ran a report about 6 of his best accidents - really poor form kicking a guy when he's down) - totally uncalled for and quite sad to see. There is a lot of chat about Button at the moment with regards to his contract for next year so everything he is asked in interviews is going to be a loaded question. It is very poor and inconsistent reporting I know but it is nothing new.

But yeah the British press are fair weather supporters, Just like a Scot is a Brit when he is winning, once he starts losing he is a Scot.

Exactly. When someone is doing well, they are British but when things take a down-turn they are English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish.

Yup. The press is all about making a story. Right now, Jenson's overachieving is a more interesting story than Lewis's underachieving.

[f1ea]

Schumacher's defenses were clean. There was only 1 instance that I remember, and it was a dodgy one because he made one defensive move, then moved to take the turn... the same has happened before to no penalty as well. Problem was, Schu made no mistakes and Lewis was going for the expected moves (or maybe Schu was good at anticipating his moves).

Also, once Jenson caught on, Schu's tires were gone. Lewis was going to take hm in the next lap, so they worked his startegy and pitted.

I liked all of Jenson's moves, they were really unexpected and went to show why he is a real mastermind in looking for the perfect spot to make a clean move. From the outside they may have seemed easy, but you gotta realise the tough job was how he was able to put himself in the position to capitalise.

A champions race today.

[Hammer278]

I liked all of Jenson's moves, they were really unexpected and went to show why he is a real mastermind in looking for the perfect spot to make a clean move. From the outside they may have seemed easy, but you gotta realise the tough job was how he was able to put himself in the position to capitalise.

A champions race today.

Blablabla. MS made an error exactly at the time when Jenson was behind, the 2nd lesmos before the set of corners and Jenson was at the right place at right time. He's a mastermind at riding his luck, nothing more.

[bud]

Schumacher's defenses were clean.

given he was going against Hamilton, no surprise to see you say this. There was more than 1 instance where he moved more than once.

[acosmichippo]

I liked all of Jenson's moves, they were really unexpected and went to show why he is a real mastermind in looking for the perfect spot to make a clean move. From the outside they may have seemed easy, but you gotta realise the tough job was how he was able to put himself in the position to capitalise.

A champions race today.

Blablabla. MS made an error exactly at the time when Jenson was behind, the 2nd lesmos before the set of corners and Jenson was at the right place at right time. He's a mastermind at riding his luck, nothing more.

Isn't being "at the right place at the right time" the whole point of motorsport?

Lewis dropped the ball at the start of the race, and Jenson took advantage. Simple as that.

[Ineluke]

Schumacher's defenses were clean. There was only 1 instance that I remember, and it was a dodgy one because he made one defensive move, then moved to take the turn... the same has happened before to no penalty as well. Problem was, Schu made no mistakes and Lewis was going for the expected moves (or maybe Schu was good at anticipating his moves).

Also, once Jenson caught on, Schu's tires were gone. Lewis was going to take hm in the next lap, so they worked his startegy and pitted.

I liked all of Jenson's moves, they were really unexpected and went to show why he is a real mastermind in looking for the perfect spot to make a clean move. From the outside they may have seemed easy, but you gotta realise the tough job was how he was able to put himself in the position to capitalise.

A champions race today.

Rubbish his moves were not clean, what race were you watching lol.Oh wait, i see who i am talking to and it figures why you would say his moves were clean. Micheal clearly moved twice on more than one occasion and anyone who can't see that is in denial.

Jensen did drive a good race but unlike Lewis Micheal didn't try to run him off the track.