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[sennasational]

i think that the reason that red bull are struggling to put on the kers system, because adrian newey and his design team are struggling to package the system, which is strange considering how good of a design team hes got

Adrian doesnt really want it. It compromises what he can do with the car.

I'm pretty sure thats just the reason RBR wanted to give, the real reason they didn't have it in Australia was because they couldn't get it working reliably enough to ensure they wouldn't just be carrying dead weight around. This was pretty much proven in Malaysia, both systems failed. Adrian knows that to be most competitive the car needs kers, whether he 'wants' it or not isn't at all relevant.

[Robert12010]

i think that the reason that red bull are struggling to put on the kers system, because adrian newey and his design team are struggling to package the system, which is strange considering how good of a design team hes got

Adrian doesnt really want it. It compromises what he can do with the car.

I'm pretty sure thats just the reason RBR wanted to give, the real reason they didn't have it in Australia was because they couldn't get it working reliably enough to ensure they wouldn't just be carrying dead weight around. This was pretty much proven in Malaysia, both systems failed. Adrian knows that to be most competitive the car needs kers, whether he 'wants' it or not isn't at all relevant.

its an advantge to be fair, look how good the effect was in 2009 for mclaren

[vlad]

They will get it working, the only question is how soon...

[Jensonb]

Hmm. Adrian's been cruising for a slice of humble pie for quite a while.

Perhaps KERS is what's going to bring his feet back onto the ground.

[What's Burning?]

Hmm. Adrian's been cruising for a slice of humble pie for quite a while.

Perhaps KERS is what's going to bring his feet back onto the ground.

Need I remind you that even with the problems, they've managed to win twice now? That kind of humble pie isn't too hard to swallow.

[Jensonb]

Hmm. Adrian's been cruising for a slice of humble pie for quite a while.

Perhaps KERS is what's going to bring his feet back onto the ground.

Need I remind you that even with the problems, they've managed to win twice now? That kind of humble pie isn't to hard to swallow.

I didn't say he'd already eaten it. Is basic comprehension that difficult?

[geetface9]

Is basic comprehension that difficult?

wtf

[Jensonb]

Is basic comprehension that difficult?

wtf

It's simple, he argued with me by refuting a point I hadn't made. All you'd have to do to know that the argument he was making was baseless was read what I'd said. Basic comprehension.

[vlad]

Argued?

[What's Burning?]

Is basic comprehension that difficult?

wtf

It's simple, he argued with me by refuting a point I hadn't made. All you'd have to do to know that the argument he was making was baseless was read what I'd said. Basic comprehension.

What are you smoking? What was I arguing? You read what I said as an argument against your post and then you question that it must be because I am unable to comprehend? Are you serious?

Take a deep breath, and then take your own advice.

[geetface9]

Is basic comprehension that difficult?

wtf

It's simple, he argued with me by refuting a point I hadn't made. All you'd have to do to know that the argument he was making was baseless was read what I'd said. Basic comprehension.

You made a euphemism about newey cruising for pie and alluding to him being arrogant

What's Burning said it'd be easy pie to swallow cuz his car still won 2 races even with problems

Then you insulted him for not being able to comprehend things even though his response made more sense than your original statement LOL

[sennasational]

Is basic comprehension that difficult?

wtf

It's simple, he argued with me by refuting a point I hadn't made. All you'd have to do to know that the argument he was making was baseless was read what I'd said. Basic comprehension.

What are you smoking? What was I arguing? You read what I said as an argument against your post and then you question that it must be because I am unable to comprehend? Are you serious?

Take a deep breath, and then take your own advice.

People often mistake 'arguing' for something negative, you argued against his point. You argued that seeing as RBR haven't had KERS for 2 races and have still done well, if they were for whatever reason not able to properly implement a working KERS system then it wouldn't have a massive effect on their season result. However the original point made wasn't that they wouldn't do well if they couldn't design a good KERS package, but that it is entirely possible that they might struggle to do so, thus you argued against a point that wasn't made. This wouldn't normally be an issue, but you did it in a way which implied stupidity on the point that was made...for future reference, I think it was the 'head against the wall' smiley.

Or at least, thats how I see it.

[What's Burning?]

Is basic comprehension that difficult?

wtf

It's simple, he argued with me by refuting a point I hadn't made. All you'd have to do to know that the argument he was making was baseless was read what I'd said. Basic comprehension.

What are you smoking? What was I arguing? You read what I said as an argument against your post and then you question that it must be because I am unable to comprehend? Are you serious?

Take a deep breath, and then take your own advice.

People often mistake 'arguing' for something negative, you argued against his point. You argued that seeing as RBR haven't had KERS for 2 races and have still done well, if they were for whatever reason not able to properly implement a working KERS system then it wouldn't have a massive effect on their season result. However the original point made wasn't that they wouldn't do well if they couldn't design a good KERS package, but that it is entirely possible that they might struggle to do so, thus you argued against a point that wasn't made. This wouldn't normally be an issue, but you did it in a way which implied stupidity on the point that was made...for future reference, I think it was the 'head against the wall' smiley.

Or at least, thats how I see it.

Then we're looking too much into an argument, or a post. I stand by everything I said... it was civil and not an "attack" which is probably a better word.

I didn't say he'd already eaten it. Is basic comprehension that difficult?

...neither did I.

[darwin dali]

Hm, is Spring wreaking havoc with some of you lot's hormones?

[Jensonb]

People often mistake 'arguing' for something negative, you argued against his point. You argued that seeing as RBR haven't had KERS for 2 races and have still done well, if they were for whatever reason not able to properly implement a working KERS system then it wouldn't have a massive effect on their season result. However the original point made wasn't that they wouldn't do well if they couldn't design a good KERS package, but that it is entirely possible that they might struggle to do so, thus you argued against a point that wasn't made. This wouldn't normally be an issue, but you did it in a way which implied stupidity on the point that was made...for future reference, I think it was the 'head against the wall' smiley.

Or at least, thats how I see it.

You are correct sir.

Then we're looking too much into an argument, or a post. I stand by everything I said... it was civil and not an "attack" which is probably a better word.

Again, nobody said anything about attack. I said "argue". Arguing something is the same as asserting it.

I didn't say he'd already eaten it. Is basic comprehension that difficult?

...neither did I.

No, you implied that I had...I'm sorry, I'm not really sure how you're not getting this? The problem is I was speculating that this issue could lead to Adrian Newey's - and, by extension, Red Bull's - undoing. Your response, framed as an attempt to refute that idea, pointed out that that hadn't happened. But that's irrelevant, because I was speculating about the future.