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[Jensonb]

Button is indeed much better in handling the Pirelli tyres...

No he isnt. He was bettr on the hards but he was also tinkering with his set up. Lewis was better on the softs.

That's debatable.
EDIT: EDITING A USERS POST TO INSERT YOUR OWN OPINION IS WELL OUT OF ORDER RACECHICK.

[acosmichippo]

Lewis messed his tyres on every stint.
During the strugle with Heidfeld on start, later in the last corner, and so on...

Keep telling yourself that... he was within 3 seconds of Vettel and the second set of primes did him in, there was clearly a problem with those as he had to come in after about 7 or 8 laps again for a 3rd set of primes. Otherwise he would have been breathing down Vettel's neck.

I wonder if Lewis was just having problems with the hard tyres in general. He could definately match Vettel when they were both on the soft but he kinda drifted away once he put hards on, and Jenson said the car felt better on hards so I think its something to do with the setup Lewis had

i think so.

No it was clearly a problem with the 2nd set of primes... he was posting 43's with those, and when he came back in for the 3rd set, he was back down to the 41's.

Was that the stop where the tyres took a long time to come off and he went out into traffic? I'll have to get a copy of the race and rewatch how all this stuff unfolded today. It was a very interesting GP

Yep. The third set came after he and Alonso "touched".

Boop!

(Archer reference... No?)

[CarBore]

Was it Jenson's specific instructions to the mechanics to adjust his front wing? I wonder why McLaren didn't atleast give the option to Lewis if it was really helping that much

[racechick]

Button is indeed much better in handling the Pirelli tyres...

No he isnt. He was bettr on the hards but he was also tinkering with his set up. Lewis was better on the softs.

That's debatable.
.

Everything is debateable Lewis used the softs better in quali and looked to be doing so early in the race

[CarBore]

Lewis messed his tyres on every stint.
During the strugle with Heidfeld on start, later in the last corner, and so on...

Keep telling yourself that... he was within 3 seconds of Vettel and the second set of primes did him in, there was clearly a problem with those as he had to come in after about 7 or 8 laps again for a 3rd set of primes. Otherwise he would have been breathing down Vettel's neck.

I wonder if Lewis was just having problems with the hard tyres in general. He could definately match Vettel when they were both on the soft but he kinda drifted away once he put hards on, and Jenson said the car felt better on hards so I think its something to do with the setup Lewis had

i think so.

No it was clearly a problem with the 2nd set of primes... he was posting 43's with those, and when he came back in for the 3rd set, he was back down to the 41's.

Was that the stop where the tyres took a long time to come off and he went out into traffic? I'll have to get a copy of the race and rewatch how all this stuff unfolded today. It was a very interesting GP

Yep. The third set came after he and Alonso "touched".

Boop!

(Archer reference... No?)

He was slow on those hards before Alonso hit him though, its the whole reason Alonso was close enough to hit him

[CarBore]

Button is indeed much better in handling the Pirelli tyres...

No he isnt. He was bettr on the hards but he was also tinkering with his set up. Lewis was better on the softs.

That's debatable.
.

Everything is debateable Lewis used the softs better in quali and looked to be doing so early in the race

Hmmm 2 drivers with notabably different styles and they each prefer a different tyre type who would have thought....

[acosmichippo]

That was WB's point, I think. He was good on the first and third set of primes, but the second set is where he had major problems.

[racechick]

Lewis messed his tyres on every stint.
During the strugle with Heidfeld on start, later in the last corner, and so on...

Keep telling yourself that... he was within 3 seconds of Vettel and the second set of primes did him in, there was clearly a problem with those as he had to come in after about 7 or 8 laps again for a 3rd set of primes. Otherwise he would have been breathing down Vettel's neck.

I wonder if Lewis was just having problems with the hard tyres in general. He could definately match Vettel when they were both on the soft but he kinda drifted away once he put hards on, and Jenson said the car felt better on hards so I think its something to do with the setup Lewis had

i think so.

No it was clearly a problem with the 2nd set of primes... he was posting 43's with those, and when he came back in for the 3rd set, he was back down to the 41's.

Was that the stop where the tyres took a long time to come off and he went out into traffic? I'll have to get a copy of the race and rewatch how all this stuff unfolded today. It was a very interesting GP

Yep. The third set came after he and Alonso "touched".

Boop!

(Archer reference... No?)

He was slow on those hards before Alonso hit him though, its the whole reason Alonso was close enough to hit him

Yes, he was on the 3rd set before Alonso hit him. he went onto a 4th set after the hit.

[CarBore]

I'd expect his final set to be faster because he has almost no fuel left and because there were only a few laps left to go in the race he didn't have to worry about conserving them.

[acosmichippo]

I thought you only get three sets of each type of tire. Did he use one set twice?

[vlad]

Well, they will have to work even harder to figure out how to avoid the same problems happening again. Untill then, Vettel will keep winning!

[racechick]

I thought you only get three sets of each type of tire. Did he use one set twice?

He has soft, soft hard hard hard

[acosmichippo]

Right, ok. I thought you meant 3rd/4th set of primes, not 3rd/4th set of any tires.

[CarBore]

Is there a list or charts out there of the drivers lap times over a course of the whole race? I'd like to look at the relative paces of Lewis Jenson and Seb through the different tyre phases

[vlad]

Button is indeed much better in handling the Pirelli tyres...

No he isnt. He was bettr on the hards but he was also tinkering with his set up. Lewis was better on the softs.

Remind me again, who finnished 2nd?