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By Hammer278
#237389
Jensonb wrote:I still find it creepy that Santander sponsor the only out-and-out enemies in F1.

Well, I guess they're not the only ones any more. Renault sure hate Team Lotus...To whom they supply engines...

F1 is confusing. :confused:
Renault don't hate Team Lotus. Group Lotus, their sponsors are the ones who hate them.
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By bud
#237398
Hammer278 wrote:
Jensonb wrote:I still find it creepy that Santander sponsor the only out-and-out enemies in F1.

Well, I guess they're not the only ones any more. Renault sure hate Team Lotus...To whom they supply engines...

F1 is confusing. :confused:
Renault don't hate Team Lotus. Group Lotus, their sponsors are the ones who hate them.
group Lotus owns the Renault team. But they do not own the Engine works. Thats still Renault out and out.
By Ichabod
#237419
bud wrote:
Hammer278 wrote:
Jensonb wrote:I still find it creepy that Santander sponsor the only out-and-out enemies in F1.

Well, I guess they're not the only ones any more. Renault sure hate Team Lotus...To whom they supply engines...

F1 is confusing. :confused:
Renault don't hate Team Lotus. Group Lotus, their sponsors are the ones who hate them.
group Lotus owns the Renault team. But they do not own the Engine works. Thats still Renault out and out.
Group Lotus don't own anything Genni own 100% of the Renault Team
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By bud
#237422
Ichabod wrote:
bud wrote:
Hammer278 wrote:
Jensonb wrote:I still find it creepy that Santander sponsor the only out-and-out enemies in F1.

Well, I guess they're not the only ones any more. Renault sure hate Team Lotus...To whom they supply engines...

F1 is confusing. :confused:
Renault don't hate Team Lotus. Group Lotus, their sponsors are the ones who hate them.
group Lotus owns the Renault team. But they do not own the Engine works. Thats still Renault out and out.
Group Lotus don't own anything Genni own 100% of the Renault Team
actually Group Lotus own 25% of the team.
By Hammer278
#237445
actually Group Lotus own 25% of the team.

Correct. But my point was that the root of 'hate' stems from the Sticker Makers called Group Lotus, Renault doesn't give a damn if Team Lotus is called anything....they are just happy getting the cash injection from Sticker Makers.
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By Jensonb
#237457
It was a joke guys, I'm well aware Renault GP =/= Renault the carmaker.

Though one could reasonably wonder if the average casual fan knows that.
By Ichabod
#237618
bud wrote:
Ichabod wrote:
bud wrote:
Hammer278 wrote:
Jensonb wrote:I still find it creepy that Santander sponsor the only out-and-out enemies in F1.

Well, I guess they're not the only ones any more. Renault sure hate Team Lotus...To whom they supply engines...

F1 is confusing. :confused:
Renault don't hate Team Lotus. Group Lotus, their sponsors are the ones who hate them.
group Lotus owns the Renault team. But they do not own the Engine works. Thats still Renault out and out.
Group Lotus don't own anything Genni own 100% of the Renault Team
actually Group Lotus own 25% of the team.
Hammer278 wrote:actually Group Lotus own 25% of the team.

Correct. But my point was that the root of 'hate' stems from the Sticker Makers called Group Lotus, Renault doesn't give a damn if Team Lotus is called anything....they are just happy getting the cash injection from Sticker Makers.
Group Lotus Are only title sponsors With the option to buy 25% in the future
They don't own anything
Genii Capital own 100%
By Ichabod
#237623
Lotus Renault GP team manager Eric Boullier made some recent comments to clarify the ownership scheme of the Enstone based organization, now that French manufacturer Renault is out of the picture. At the end of the 2010 season, Renault decided to withdraw its factory support from the squad and focus on engine supply only, after which Group Lotus stepped in to help former co-owners Genii Capital maintain their operations alive.
However, when the 7-year deal between the two companies was announced in December, there were no details about Group Lotus's involvement in the new project. It's still unclear whether the British carmaker is a shareholder or a sponsor of the Enstone team. And Boullier now moved to clear that up.

“Renault decided to re-focus its resources in F1 and sold its remaining 25 per cent to Genii Capital,” said Boullier.

And Autosprint also reveals that in fact Genii Capital investment firm is in total control of the team, with Lotus Group having a clear sponsorship role in the operations. However, this may change in the upcoming few years, with Lotus Cars potentially becoming a shareholder in the team.

Talking about his new challenger for the 2011 F1 season, the R31, Boullier confirmed that its launch will happen one day before the Valencia test kicks off, yet admitted he's not sure whether the racer will incorporate the Magneti-Marelli KERS system from the get go.

In related news, it appears that 25 engineers belonging to Group Lotus' Malaysian carmaker owner Proton will be sent for two-year engagements to work at the F1 team, as reported by the GMM news agency.

“It's a good way to get fresh ideas and a new way of thinking,” said Boullier.
By Hammer278
#237648
Well...If it's alright you could lock this one. I think it's a dead horse, what with the launch today and all. :wink:
#237671
Hammer278 wrote:Well...If it's alright you could lock this one. I think it's a dead horse, what with the launch today and all. :wink:
the rumours of the ''black livery'' were finalled crushed!
By Ineluke
#237681
Robert12010 wrote:
Hammer278 wrote:Well...If it's alright you could lock this one. I think it's a dead horse, what with the launch today and all. :wink:
the rumours of the ''black livery'' were finalled crushed!

Yup, i was one who thought it would be black,glad to see i was wrong,the car looks awesome. :rofl:
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By killem2
#237684
darwin dali wrote:
What's Burning? wrote:
darwin dali wrote:
Jensonb wrote:I want to see a Purple F1 Car.
Ditto.
Let's get a purple sponsor.
Seems like the stomach has it:

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Didn't the team umm, sorry trying to remember his name, I feel terrible about it, he died the day before Ayrton senna died. Ronald Ratzenburger?

Google is failing me because I can't spell. But i thought that dude had a purple and blue car.
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By scotty
#237685
Simtek!

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