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#226713
IMHO What happens in 1st lap did effect the entire result.

Schumi possibly do that to make sure Alonso, who was preventing him from his 8th crown to lost his chance for this year’s title.

Also possibly do that to make sure Vettel, who is fellow germans to grab this year’s title.

But 1st place claim by Vettel was his own effort and failure to maintain the desired 4th position by Alonso was his own mistake..


MS is not a stupid if he does something like that is because he’s assuring something important. Not just for a silly revenge. Please, just take a look at the accident.
#226714
Hehe..

As an F1 fan and this forum fan, I dont mind much about which side i am.

I can also say that possibly The German of Vettel want to make sure his victory so he ask the German of Rosberg to do early pitstop in safety car so he can leapfrog almost everyone. For doing that he ask the German of Schumi to create an accident on the very 1st lap so he ask help from Force India but instead the German of Sutil, the Italian of Liuzzi did that... Well Gossip and conspiracy is so much fun to play with.. :hehe:


You’re not a very clever man? Are you?
#226719
What exactly would be so important to Schumacher that he would risk his life in a race for apparently no personal gain, bearing in mind that he has a wife and children back home?


Have you seen the accident images? They talk for themselves. Please take a look at them.
#226720
What exactly would be so important to Schumacher that he would risk his life in a race for apparently no personal gain, bearing in mind that he has a wife and children back home?


Have you seen the accident images? They talk for themselves. Please take a look at them.


You didn't answer my question. I've seen the images over and over, all they show is that Schumacher makes an error and spins without contact.

Why would he intentionally do this?
#226724
What exactly would be so important to Schumacher that he would risk his life in a race for apparently no personal gain, bearing in mind that he has a wife and children back home?


Have you seen the accident images? They talk for themselves. Please take a look at them.


You didn't answer my question. I've seen the images over and over, all they show is that Schumacher makes an error and spins without contact.

Why would he intentionally do this?


An error? Have you got a driver license? Please, be careful. Especially on the streets. Sometimes there are children here and there.
Good question. Could you give me an answer? Make an effort, please THINK!
#226727
What exactly would be so important to Schumacher that he would risk his life in a race for apparently no personal gain, bearing in mind that he has a wife and children back home?


Have you seen the accident images? They talk for themselves. Please take a look at them.


You didn't answer my question. I've seen the images over and over, all they show is that Schumacher makes an error and spins without contact.

Why would he intentionally do this?


An error? Have you got a driver license? Please, be careful. Especially on the streets. Sometimes there are children here and there.
Good question. Could you give me an answer? Make an effort, please THINK!


There's a difference between driving a high-performance Formula One car on a race track and a Renault Clio at 30mph on the streets. The race driver is pushing as hard as they can, the street driver is not. ;)

I can't think of any reason to put his life on the line to fix a championship in Vettel's favour. As far as I can tell, there isn't one, in which case he wouldn't do it. Once again, you haven't answered my question. Are you actually going to?
#226731
What exactly would be so important to Schumacher that he would risk his life in a race for apparently no personal gain, bearing in mind that he has a wife and children back home?


Have you seen the accident images? They talk for themselves. Please take a look at them.


You didn't answer my question. I've seen the images over and over, all they show is that Schumacher makes an error and spins without contact.

Why would he intentionally do this?


An error? Have you got a driver license? Please, be careful. Especially on the streets. Sometimes there are children here and there.
Good question. Could you give me an answer? Make an effort, please THINK!


There's a difference between driving a high-performance Formula One car on a race track and a Renault Clio at 30mph on the streets. The race driver is pushing as hard as they can, the street driver is not. ;)

I can't think of any reason to put his life on the line to fix a championship in Vettel's favour. As far as I can tell, there isn't one, in which case he wouldn't do it. Once again, you haven't answered my question. Are you actually going to?


I deduce for your answer that you haven`t got a driver license. Please, get it and after that, take another look at the accident. I got it and I can assure you that this was a simulation, almost perfect, between Rosberg and him. Do you know at what speed where they driving at such a difficult point? Tell me if you know it. I suppose they were running at full speed.
I didn’t know that Michael had a wife and two children. That’s breaking my heart a little bit. Do you think that he should leave the Formula 1? Such a dangerous job. Poor kids. It’s almost a miracle that he stays alive after so many years risking his life. How many years? Do you remember?
I have heard that sometimes he had provoked accidents on purpose in races for the title, but I suppose it’s a lie, like many others. Well, at least I hope that he hasn’t had still the kids at that time. Poor boys.
About the reasons that Michael could have had for manipulating a race for the title, it’s difficult to say. You know, I’ve never got into his mind.
It costs me a lot as well, to believe that he could have been risking his job just now when he’s working at a new German team, with his fellow countryman Rosberg and his old friend Ross Brawn. A German team with the full support from a giant like Mercedes, with such an enormous future in which he could play, in the future, after retiring, a main role. Not like at Ferrari where they treated him like an ignorant.
I can´t also believe that he could have been interested in Vettel winning the WDC. I don´t think that Vettel will never becomes a Mercedes driver, you know, so many Germans at the same team, impossible.
I think you’re right; he couldn’t have had any interest in simulating that horrendous accident, but in that case. Why did he it?
Have you an answer to that unexplainable question?
And don´t tell me that he didn´t, please.
#226736
Ok mate - after 14 pages of you telling everyone to go back and look at images and videos you're going on like a cracked record. We've watched it, we say what we see, you tell us to watch it again.

I know that´s speculative, but it’s only a man and a team and it wouldn’t had been the first time.
But I insist that the key factor is MS accident. He wouldn´t have done such a thing just for a small possibility of something small. It’s nothing about FA losing, it’s about SV wining.


Wow - that's an improvement from someone who started off this thread with listing everything as fact :eek: . Look on the first lap it's pretty hard to plan something that will decide the outcome 55 laps later. How many hours of planning would it take for the Mercedes Team to do this pefectly?

It's pretty stupid. Vettel won the title on his own accord and Ferrari lost the title on their own accord. And in order for Sebastian to be absolutely ensured of a victory, the Mercedes Team would have had to conspire with the McLaren team as well. It's absurd. Contrary to popular belief, Shumacher can make a mistake. He has spun before with no other cars around him in a Ferrari. Was that a conspiracy? I've seen Alonso spin too with no one around him. Is that a conspiracy?

Schumacher did not want to take out Rosberg. He was off the racing line, meaning there was very little grip. It is usually very difficult for two cars to go through a chicane side by side - is you have the wrong line and are two aggressive - you will spin. Vettel did something similar to Button this year at Spa. Was that a conspiracy? How many times did Liuzzi spin this year? Is that a conspiracy? Hamilton going wide on Alonso in Korea and Brazil? Remember Piquet and Crashajima? They spun nearly every race.... A conspiracy?

Mate - you are one in a million. Stop telling us to look back the videos we watch it - combine it with our experience in watching F1 races - and we know spins happen all the time.

Let me try another blasphemous approach which is bound to grab your attention - was Senna crashing at Imola in '94 a conspiracy to help Schumacher?

Drivers spin all the time. In your oringinal post you said something that made me piss myself I can't quote now because it's too far back. It was like: "Schumacher did not make any contact. So the only other option is that he did it on purpose" :rofl: So there are only 2 factors that can contribute to a spin?

Mate - do yourself a favour - and watch a few more races before you make yourself look like an idiot. :bs:

But welcome to the forum, I'd like to see your opinion on other more relevant issues. :wavey:
#226743
I deduce for your answer that you haven`t got a driver license. Please, get it and after that, take another look at the accident. I got it and I can assure you that this was a simulation, almost perfect, between Rosberg and him.


A road licence makes you an expert on racing matters, does it? Damn, and here I was going to apply for a MSA competition licence. I must be mad thinking to waste money on something that I clearly don't need. :rolleyes:

You don't know whether or not I have a driving licence, but here you're trying to say that having one makes any difference in this matter. It doesn't, driving on a road is nothing like driving on a racetrack in a competitive environment with the kind of cars these guys do. They are not alike.

And don´t tell me that he didn´t, please.


So basically, "don't tell me the truth because I don't want to hear it"?

Okay. You're still wrong, though. :)
#226747
Hey - according to the Wikipedia report Alonso brushed the barrier at the same point that Mark did. I didn't catch that. Did anyone else see it?

That would surely debunk the Ferrari conspiracy theory.


What barrier? Wtf are you on about mate? Sorry, its kinda late over here.
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