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#225378
I am not trying to suggest team order or conspiracy :wink: but it was odd that Webber quali was bad.

The 2 RBR's have been very close in qualis since Japan and than in the last GP of the season for Webber to fall behind and seems to be struggling with his car. It just seemed like it was robbed of its power.

It didn't make a lot of sense.

Yes you are and it doesn't make much sense.
#225380
I am not trying to suggest team order or conspiracy :wink: but it was odd that Webber quali was bad.

The 2 RBR's have been very close in qualis since Japan and than in the last GP of the season for Webber to fall behind and seems to be struggling with his car. It just seemed like it was robbed of its power.

It didn't make a lot of sense.

Yes you are and it doesn't make much sense.

Maybe it's engine or gearbox issues or other things. Does it always have to be conspiracy. It doesn't ring a bell the difference in performance between Webber and Vettel.
#225381
I am not trying to suggest team order or conspiracy :wink: but it was odd that Webber quali was bad.

The 2 RBR's have been very close in qualis since Japan and than in the last GP of the season for Webber to fall behind and seems to be struggling with his car. It just seemed like it was robbed of its power.

It didn't make a lot of sense.

Yes you are and it doesn't make much sense.



Doesn't make any sense? It makes perfect sense when Helmet Marko is standing up on the podium with Vettel. Thats favouritism through and through and every true follower and fan can see it. Mark was never supposed to win this World Championship and thats been shown all year with Marko's reaction at Turkey, the front wing scandal in Silverstone and every race since Monza where the team failed to back him despite him clearly leading the World Championship. But Red Bull have their policy and pulled a huge gamble and it paid off. As a fan of F1 I respect that but as a Webber fan they can get bent. But Vettel did what was required of him in order to win so well done to him. Honestly I think Mark drove brilliantly this year, but he definitely had a bad case of championship nerves from about 7 races ago and just wasn't able to give the same performances we saw at Barcelona, Monaco, Silverstone and Hungary. But for what he was trying to achieve, I cannot blame him cause I would have been sent to the funny farm with complete shot of nerves if I was in his shoes. Well done Mark, you did Australia proud by putting us back on the world stage of motorsport. Just go bloody harder and win the damn thing next time, will ya?
#225494
no conspiracy that red bull sacrificed webber its fact the qual times show it, show me where else webber has qualified almost a second slower than vettel, NEVER
they gave him a crap car, then just to make sure they finished him off they gave him a piss poor pit strategy
very weak Red Bull at least have the decency now the seasons over to admit to the world u never wanted Webber to win the WDC for u
#225497
I would have loved to see Webber become champion but he ruined his tyres in Q by stuffing his first hot lap. The pit strategy due to the SC was Redbull trying to pull something left from centre to make Mark jump positions. It didnt work but if he didnt Q in a bad position they wouldn't have had to make that call in the first place. No conspiracy I'm sorry.
#225547
I dont think the Quali disaster for Webber was planned. He went out and stuffed his first lap, didnt take care of the tires and resulted in a slow second lap. The strategy for quali wasnt the best but Vettel did fine on it.

However i do believe that RB might have used Webber as bait to see if Alonso's engineer would buckle and call him in. It worked but it would have been a huge gamble.
#225638
I dont think the Quali disaster for Webber was planned. He went out and stuffed his first lap, didnt take care of the tires and resulted in a slow second lap. The strategy for quali wasnt the best but Vettel did fine on it.

However i do believe that RB might have used Webber as bait to see if Alonso's engineer would buckle and call him in. It worked but it would have been a huge gamble.


I pretty much agree with that, Webber ruined his chances in quali so Red Bull jumped at the first opportunity to use him in the race to give Vettel the best chance.

I found Vettels call to say he had a problem with his radio quite funny though, perhaps he wasn't so confident in Red Bulls claim of no team orders.

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