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[F1tastic]

It seems to me that if the FIA sees fit to monitor McLaren's treatment of it's drivers, perhaps the same scrutiny must be applied to all teams for things to remain equitable?

For example - if Massa is ordered to pull over to let Kimi past resulting in a win and the drivers crown, could that be contested as 'unfair' treatment of a driver? Could McLaren appeal the resut on the grounds that team orders or favouritism resulted in one of their own drivers losing out?

This up coing race is further complicated by the maze of different scenarios that would give a different championship winner. So surely at least Ferrari should be observed too... (or would that be a little too unomfortable for the FIA to do?)

Even though both FM and KR may not be contesting the championship between themselves as FA and LH are, it seems out of line that one team is singled out for scrutiny.

Perhaps farces like the countless fixed Schumacher wins would then become a thing of the past and drivers could be confident their team aren't plotting against them. (Unless the Scrutineer took a 'bung' of course)

At least too, championships would be won on merit rather than the team principles favourite driver getting the best of everything.

[ArtHowe]

(Unless the Scrutineer took a 'bung' of course)

No problem F1tastic, Mosley has recently funded a "bung fund" to the tune of $100,000,000.

[Ron Dennis]

Certainly when the FIA seem to be hell bent on ensuring a fair and non-manufactured championship, it seems odd that they are unconcerned about Massa - who has already said he will (he means ordered to) help Kimi in his attempt to secure the WDC.

Double standards indeed.

[F1tastic]

....when the FIA seem to be hell bent on ensuring a fair and non-manufactured championship.....

I personally think that should read "seem to be hell bent on perpetuating the perception of a fair championship"

It's clearly far from fair this year.

[racechick]

Certainly when the FIA seem to be hell bent on ensuring a fair and non-manufactured championship, it seems odd that they are unconcerned about Massa - who has already said he will (he means ordered to) help Kimi in his attempt to secure the WDC.

Double standards indeed.

Double standards indeed!
It seems bizarre that one of the four named individuals in the so called spying saga is the only one receiving protection from the heavies

[McLaren Fan]

It certainly is double standards, however, team orders of one kind or another have always been part of motorsport, forming team tactics and whatever. I don't see anything wrong with Ferrari using Massa to help Raikkonen for Massa has no chance to win the championship. What would be unfair would be if both were in the title race and Ferrari favoured one. Formula One is a team sport and, therefore, the team has to be do what's best for itself.

[Ron Dennis]

It certainly is double standards, however, team orders of one kind or another have always been part of motorsport, forming team tactics and whatever. I don't see anything wrong with Ferrari using Massa to help Raikkonen for Massa has no chance to win the championship. What would be unfair would be if both were in the title race and Ferrari favoured one. Formula One is a team sport and, therefore, the team has to be do what's best for itself.

You mean like Massa, Barrichello and Irvine at the start of every season?

Or maybe when Mansell had his engine de-tuned when racing against his team-mate Prost?

[McLaren Fan]

It certainly is double standards, however, team orders of one kind or another have always been part of motorsport, forming team tactics and whatever. I don't see anything wrong with Ferrari using Massa to help Raikkonen for Massa has no chance to win the championship. What would be unfair would be if both were in the title race and Ferrari favoured one. Formula One is a team sport and, therefore, the team has to be do what's best for itself.

You mean like Massa, Barrichello and Irvine at the start of every season?

Or maybe when Mansell had his engine de-tuned when racing against his team-mate Prost?

Ferrari not using Massa to help Raikkonen is pointless. It would be the same if it were the other way round. Sabotaging somebody's car which you mention is a totally different matter. Although I have moral objections to a 1-2 system of working, at the end of the day it's the team's decision, as long as the driver is told he is going to be number two before he signs. If he doesn't like it then he shouldn't sign.

This whole area is one which is going to very difficult for one to police and would allow more room for FIA-Ferrari corruption. Things are fine as they are.

[ArtHowe]

I any case, a scrutineer in the McLaren garage for the coming race is a pre-presumption of guilt, which is outrageous and which would not be allowed under the watch of any other governing body, be it sport or otherwise, that I am aware of. At least not in anything other than a totalitarian society.

[Ron Dennis]

What would the FIA made of McLarens mistake of keeping Hamilton out so long on worn tyres had it been Alonsos car? A stupid mistake would have been made into the biggest conspiracy ever in the history of single-eyebrowed people.

[stonemonkey]

Ron Dennis wrote:
Certainly when the FIA seem to be hell bent on ensuring a fair and non-manufactured championship, it seems odd that they are unconcerned about Massa - who has already said he will (he means ordered to) help Kimi in his attempt to secure the WDC.

Double standards indeed.


Double standards indeed!
It seems bizarre that one of the four named individuals in the so called spying saga is the only one receiving protection from the heavies

I wonder what the blackmailer has got on the FIA.

[7UpJordan]

Or maybe when Mansell had his engine de-tuned when racing against his team-mate Prost?

And also Ferrari swapping his car with Prost's secretly when Mansell managed to get his car set up better and was going faster.

[texasmr2]

Mansell managed to get his car set up better and was going faster.

This seem's to be one of the most overlooked aspect's to a driver's performance.

[darwin dali]

I any case, a scrutineer in the McLaren garage for the coming race is a pre-presumption of guilt, which is outrageous and which would not be allowed under the watch of any other governing body, be it sport or otherwise, that I am aware of. At least not in anything other than a totalitarian society.

Ask, e.g., Lance Armstrong about how intrusive and humiliating and reminiscent of a totalitarian society his random and unannounced doping tests were...

[racechick]

Random-as in can be applied to anyone, NOT only one team