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By texasmr2
#161518
I think JB can do but I also think Rubens and Sebastien can aswell, should be a nailbiter ending to the season.
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By darwin dali
#161549
Lewis's dad just stands at the front rubbing that pussycat dolls arse.

A bit harsh :D
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By darwin dali
#161551
Button has been beaten off the grid because most of the cars around him; Ferrari's and McLaren's have KERS, His car isn't as dominant as it was at the start of the season as the major players have caught up and it seems Ross Brawn has no answers.

Hm, I rate Ross extremely high. Think about the following scenario: RB doesn't want to spend his pennies on this year's car as it seems JB/BrawnGP have a big enough margin from earlier on to bring home both titles. Ross would rather focus on next year's car and spend his money there to make sure he'll be competitive again. Now with Mercedes coming in and bringing big $$$, Ross could speculate and put a LOT of money into the early next year's car with the idea to pour Mercedes $$$ into it as the season progresses to keep up with the development race that is surely to come from Ferrari and McLaren.
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By texasmr2
#161555
Button has been beaten off the grid because most of the cars around him; Ferrari's and McLaren's have KERS, His car isn't as dominant as it was at the start of the season as the major players have caught up and it seems Ross Brawn has no answers.

Hm, I rate Ross extremely high. Think about the following scenario: RB doesn't want to spend his pennies on this year's car as it seems JB/BrawnGP have a big enough margin from earlier on to bring home both titles. Ross would rather focus on next year's car and spend his money there to make sure he'll be competitive again. Now with Mercedes coming in and bringing big $$$, Ross could speculate and put a LOT of money into the early next year's car with the idea to pour Mercedes $$$ into it as the season progresses to keep up with the development race that is surely to come from Ferrari and McLaren.


As much as I hate to :D I'm going to agree with you!
By Juliet P
#161557
Button has been beaten off the grid because most of the cars around him; Ferrari's and McLaren's have KERS, His car isn't as dominant as it was at the start of the season as the major players have caught up and it seems Ross Brawn has no answers.

Hm, I rate Ross extremely high. Think about the following scenario: RB doesn't want to spend his pennies on this year's car as it seems JB/BrawnGP have a big enough margin from earlier on to bring home both titles. Ross would rather focus on next year's car and spend his money there to make sure he'll be competitive again. Now with Mercedes coming in and bringing big $$$, Ross could speculate and put a LOT of money into the early next year's car with the idea to pour Mercedes $$$ into it as the season progresses to keep up with the development race that is surely to come from Ferrari and McLaren.


As much as I hate to :D I'm going to agree with you!


Is it really so painful, Gregg? :P
By manmonkee
#161566
Button has been beaten off the grid because most of the cars around him; Ferrari's and McLaren's have KERS, His car isn't as dominant as it was at the start of the season as the major players have caught up and it seems Ross Brawn has no answers.

Hm, I rate Ross extremely high. Think about the following scenario: RB doesn't want to spend his pennies on this year's car as it seems JB/BrawnGP have a big enough margin from earlier on to bring home both titles. Ross would rather focus on next year's car and spend his money there to make sure he'll be competitive again. Now with Mercedes coming in and bringing big $$$, Ross could speculate and put a LOT of money into the early next year's car with the idea to pour Mercedes $$$ into it as the season progresses to keep up with the development race that is surely to come from Ferrari and McLaren.


As much as I hate to :D I'm going to agree with you!


Is it really so painful, Gregg? :P


If it wasn't for Monza and Valencia, both Rubens wins I'd agree too, But I have to only half agree, If Ross is being cheap on the car to save pennies Vettal is in danger of making it look like a serious mistake.

Ps I read something somewhere about Brawn changing there Brake suppliers and the new breaks altering the performance of the car in Rubens favour, him and Jenson break in totally different ways, Rubens slams them on and Jenson apparently applies a gradual pressure but ultimately ends up appling more pressure.
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By myownalias
#161581
Button has been beaten off the grid because most of the cars around him; Ferrari's and McLaren's have KERS, His car isn't as dominant as it was at the start of the season as the major players have caught up and it seems Ross Brawn has no answers.

Hm, I rate Ross extremely high. Think about the following scenario: RB doesn't want to spend his pennies on this year's car as it seems JB/BrawnGP have a big enough margin from earlier on to bring home both titles. Ross would rather focus on next year's car and spend his money there to make sure he'll be competitive again. Now with Mercedes coming in and bringing big $$$, Ross could speculate and put a LOT of money into the early next year's car with the idea to pour Mercedes $$$ into it as the season progresses to keep up with the development race that is surely to come from Ferrari and McLaren.

That's one scenario but we know that the Brawn has had a few upgrade packages and has still moved backwards down the grid. We all know that Ross Brawn is a technical genius hence Brawn stealing a march on the rest of the grid with the double diffuser at the start of the season. But now that everyone has implemented the split diffuser system, Brawn's advantage has fallen away and been overtaken. Brawn have done enough to clinch the constructors championship, only requiring a single point; but the drivers championship is still uncertain with JB only scraping into the minor points in the last half dozen races with the exception of Valencia.
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By darwin dali
#161584
Button has been beaten off the grid because most of the cars around him; Ferrari's and McLaren's have KERS, His car isn't as dominant as it was at the start of the season as the major players have caught up and it seems Ross Brawn has no answers.

Hm, I rate Ross extremely high. Think about the following scenario: RB doesn't want to spend his pennies on this year's car as it seems JB/BrawnGP have a big enough margin from earlier on to bring home both titles. Ross would rather focus on next year's car and spend his money there to make sure he'll be competitive again. Now with Mercedes coming in and bringing big $$$, Ross could speculate and put a LOT of money into the early next year's car with the idea to pour Mercedes $$$ into it as the season progresses to keep up with the development race that is surely to come from Ferrari and McLaren.

That's one scenario but we know that the Brawn has had a few upgrade packages and has still moved backwards down the grid. We all know that Ross Brawn is a technical genius hence Brawn stealing a march on the rest of the grid with the double diffuser at the start of the season. But now that everyone has implemented the split diffuser system, Brawn's advantage has fallen away and been overtaken. Brawn have done enough to clinch the constructors championship, only requiring a single point; but the drivers championship is still uncertain with JB only scraping into the minor points in the last half dozen races with the exception of Valencia.

Well, the potential decision to save big bucks on this year's car could have been made a while ago when the picture was still looking very favorable. And then just minimal upgrades would have been added to keep the competition from running over BrawnGP. The alternative could have been to push for the Merc KERS system to integrate into this year's car (once it became clear it represents an advantage, probably around the same time they may have decided to switch focus onto next year's car), but Ross decided not to as such a major overhaul would have cost a lot, may well not be necessary and could have compromised next year's car (remember Ferrari/McLaren's arms race last year and what happened to them earlier this season?). I'm not saying this all happened in this way, but it's a possibility and I wouldn't put it past Ross...
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By myownalias
#161585
Button has been beaten off the grid because most of the cars around him; Ferrari's and McLaren's have KERS, His car isn't as dominant as it was at the start of the season as the major players have caught up and it seems Ross Brawn has no answers.

Hm, I rate Ross extremely high. Think about the following scenario: RB doesn't want to spend his pennies on this year's car as it seems JB/BrawnGP have a big enough margin from earlier on to bring home both titles. Ross would rather focus on next year's car and spend his money there to make sure he'll be competitive again. Now with Mercedes coming in and bringing big $$$, Ross could speculate and put a LOT of money into the early next year's car with the idea to pour Mercedes $$$ into it as the season progresses to keep up with the development race that is surely to come from Ferrari and McLaren.

That's one scenario but we know that the Brawn has had a few upgrade packages and has still moved backwards down the grid. We all know that Ross Brawn is a technical genius hence Brawn stealing a march on the rest of the grid with the double diffuser at the start of the season. But now that everyone has implemented the split diffuser system, Brawn's advantage has fallen away and been overtaken. Brawn have done enough to clinch the constructors championship, only requiring a single point; but the drivers championship is still uncertain with JB only scraping into the minor points in the last half dozen races with the exception of Valencia.

Well, the potential decision to save big bucks on this year's car could have been made a while ago when the picture was still looking very favorable. And then just minimal upgrades would have been added to keep the competition from running over BrawnGP. The alternative could have been to push for the Merc KERS system to integrate into this year's car (once it became clear it represents an advantage, probably around the same time they may have decided to switch focus onto next year's car), but Ross decided not to as such a major overhaul would have cost a lot, may well not be necessary and could have compromised next year's car (remember Ferrari/McLaren's arms race last year and what happened to them earlier this season?). I'm not saying this all happened in this way, but it's a possibility and I wouldn't put it past Ross...

And I also remember BMW abandoning Robert Kubica's title charge in favour of developing the 2009 car! It's entirely possible that next years Brawn Mercedes will be woefully off the pace like Ferrari and McLaren were at the start of the season. If Ross did decide the focus on the 2010 car much earlier in the season, I believe that would be a foolish decision given the resources available to teams like Ferrari and McLaren. I wonder what went wrong with the Brawn as the Red Bull has been consistently fast despite not having KERS. Could it be the change of brakes that manmonkey eluded to that has caused the massive drop off in form? if so why didn't Ross return to the previous brakes?
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By darwin dali
#161587
Button has been beaten off the grid because most of the cars around him; Ferrari's and McLaren's have KERS, His car isn't as dominant as it was at the start of the season as the major players have caught up and it seems Ross Brawn has no answers.

Hm, I rate Ross extremely high. Think about the following scenario: RB doesn't want to spend his pennies on this year's car as it seems JB/BrawnGP have a big enough margin from earlier on to bring home both titles. Ross would rather focus on next year's car and spend his money there to make sure he'll be competitive again. Now with Mercedes coming in and bringing big $$$, Ross could speculate and put a LOT of money into the early next year's car with the idea to pour Mercedes $$$ into it as the season progresses to keep up with the development race that is surely to come from Ferrari and McLaren.

That's one scenario but we know that the Brawn has had a few upgrade packages and has still moved backwards down the grid. We all know that Ross Brawn is a technical genius hence Brawn stealing a march on the rest of the grid with the double diffuser at the start of the season. But now that everyone has implemented the split diffuser system, Brawn's advantage has fallen away and been overtaken. Brawn have done enough to clinch the constructors championship, only requiring a single point; but the drivers championship is still uncertain with JB only scraping into the minor points in the last half dozen races with the exception of Valencia.

Well, the potential decision to save big bucks on this year's car could have been made a while ago when the picture was still looking very favorable. And then just minimal upgrades would have been added to keep the competition from running over BrawnGP. The alternative could have been to push for the Merc KERS system to integrate into this year's car (once it became clear it represents an advantage, probably around the same time they may have decided to switch focus onto next year's car), but Ross decided not to as such a major overhaul would have cost a lot, may well not be necessary and could have compromised next year's car (remember Ferrari/McLaren's arms race last year and what happened to them earlier this season?). I'm not saying this all happened in this way, but it's a possibility and I wouldn't put it past Ross...

And I also remember BMW abandoning Robert Kubica's title charge in favour of developing the 2009 car! It's entirely possible that next years Brawn Mercedes will be woefully off the pace like Ferrari and McLaren were at the start of the season. If Ross did decide the focus on the 2010 car much earlier in the season, I believe that would be a foolish decision given the resources available to teams like Ferrari and McLaren. I wonder what went wrong with the Brawn as the Red Bull has been consistently fast despite not having KERS. Could it be the change of brakes that manmonkey eluded to that has caused the massive drop off in form? if so why didn't Ross return to the previous brakes?

BMW-Sauber didn't have a Ross :wink:
By Ineluke
#161603
I come from the UK but i would rather see Rubens win the WDC instead of JB.

I really hope he does not win. :rofl: I would like to see JB crash out of the next race and RB have a podium finish. :rofl:
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By headless
#161938
I hope he can do it but something keeps making me wet myself


Yeah that would be the nerves.
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By Robert182
#161941
Jenson can do it = no he cant , he even said he wont push.....what a loser :P rubens for the win :):thumbup:
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