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[hesketh308]

I favour the ban as for many, watching an F1 race was far too complicated when factoring in fuel strategies. The winning car is going to be in front much more of the time.

I think the refueling ban is a good move, I like to see the drivers racing eachother, not passing eachother in the pits because of sticky wheel nuts or silly penalites like Rosberg got at Brazil this year

[Hexagram]

I favour the ban as for many, watching an F1 race was far too complicated when factoring in fuel strategies. The winning car is going to be in front much more of the time.

I think the refueling ban is a good move, I like to see the drivers racing eachother, not passing eachother in the pits because of sticky wheel nuts or silly penalites like Rosberg got at Brazil this year

That can still happen with sticky wheel nuts and overtaking in the pitlane, they need to pit for tyres still my friend.

[texasmr2]

Alonso admits refueling ban concerns
Friday 29th January 2010 - PlanetF1.com

Fernando Alonso has slammed Formula One's new ban on refueling, believing it will make it almost impossible for anyone but the front three on the grid to win a race.


As of this year's Championship, refueling is now longer permitted during grands prix, which means a large part of race strategy has fallen by the wayside.


And although the general idea is that the ban will force drivers into overtaking rather than wait for the pit stops to pan out, Alonso fears it will make it extremely difficult for anyone not qualifying in the top three to win races.


"If you start among the top two or three that will be fundamental to win the race, otherwise it is almost impossible," said the Spaniard.


"With the old rules you could be fifth or sixth at the start and know you had a chance with the strategy. Now if the strategy is the same and you are fifth or sixth you have very few chances.


"Previously we had to take all of the opportunities to overtake in Formula One, so we know how difficult it is.


"This year we will have to continue to seize all the opportunities to overtake, and I think that with no refueling and without knowing anything about the strategy, qualifying will be even more important than it used to be."

[stonemonkey]

I think the whole "greener concept" is utter BS when it comes to racing. Simply compare the mileage and emissions by all racing worldwide for one single year and you will find them to be less than 10% of harmful emissions emitted compared to a single road car driven for one year.

Yes but for F1 to be used as a R&D project for manufacturers to create and figure out new ways for engines to produce high levels of power but consume less fuel will cause the advancements to trickle down to the road cars produced by those manufacturers.

This is why I would like to see races with a limited amout of fuel for a race, I don't mean limited as much as in the cars are any lower powered than they are now but maybe given the amount the average will be racing with this year. However, the engine manufacturers could be given totally free reign on what they do with the engines and anything to do with energy recovery so forcing the development of more efficient systems and as they become more efficient then over time the amount of allowed fuel could be reduced keeping the performance at a steady level.

OK, so it could be costly to the teams but if there's anything that could filter down to road cars the worldwide and environmental savings could be huge.

Maybe I'm just some kind of wierd hippy who thinks motorsport could actually do some good for the environment.

[darwin dali]

I think the whole "greener concept" is utter BS when it comes to racing. Simply compare the mileage and emissions by all racing worldwide for one single year and you will find them to be less than 10% of harmful emissions emitted compared to a single road car driven for one year.

Yes but for F1 to be used as a R&D project for manufacturers to create and figure out new ways for engines to produce high levels of power but consume less fuel will cause the advancements to trickle down to the road cars produced by those manufacturers.

This is why I would like to see races with a limited amout of fuel for a race, I don't mean limited as much as in the cars are any lower powered than they are now but maybe given the amount the average will be racing with this year. However, the engine manufacturers could be given totally free reign on what they do with the engines and anything to do with energy recovery so forcing the development of more efficient systems and as they become more efficient then over time the amount of allowed fuel could be reduced keeping the performance at a steady level.

OK, so it could be costly to the teams but if there's anything that could filter down to road cars the worldwide and environmental savings could be huge.

Maybe I'm just some kind of wierd hippy who thinks motorsport could actually do some good for the environment.

There are quite a few threads where such concepts have been discussed.