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[Big Azza]

Or in other words, what should be the ideal tire situation in F1?

[NHcheese]

Stop progressing in making the tyres more reactive.

[Jabberwocky]

I see that this leave the sport in a bit of a pickle.

Pirelli are going to want out after this weekend, motor racing with no tires would just not work. So right not F1 need Pirelli than Pirelli needs F1.

So what is the FIA/F1 going to do to keep Pirelli

[What's Burning?]

I say the FiA should start with an apology to Pirelli for their reprimand in the tribunal and that the FiA should pay all legal costs.

[darwin dali]

The FIA should start their own tire manufacture company

[myownalias]

Invent hover technology, no need for tyres at all!

As Jabberwocky said, F1 needs Pirelli unless there is some secret deal with Michelin or Bridgestone in the pipeline? No other manufacturers can be ready for the start of the 2015 season, let alone 2014. This is massive shortsightedness from the FiA, this is why a single tyre maker is a bad idea, there is no fallback plan, Pirelli basically have the FiA by the gonads.

I say revert to 2012 spec tyres from the choices, the other options don't work, even with a test between now and Germany, Pirelli won't be able to manufacture any new tyres before the weekend, and I doubt that they can manufacture and ship 2012 spec tyres before Germany either! For Germany, we are stuck with the current tyre.

[darwin dali]

Pirelli basically have the FiA by the gonads.

I can see how they could have them by their testes, but you'd have to dig quite deep to get to the ovaries

[andrew]

The FiA needs to give up on the fragile tyres and let Pirelli make the harder, more durable tyres they want to make. Either that or revert back to the 2012 spec' tyres for the rest of the season.

[racechick]

I say the FiA should start with an apology to Pirelli for their reprimand in the tribunal and that the FiA should pay all legal costs.

Yes. And to Mercedes too for trying to help. Bernie is now saying teams need to come forward with this years cars for Pirelli to test with. Laughable isn't it!!!! Well you'd cry otherwise!

[andrew]

How's it laughable? Is he not just reiterating the rules? I thought there was a procedure in place if a team wants to carry out a tyre test using their current car.

Adrian Newey's view is quite interesting.

http://www.formula1blog.com/2013/07/01/newey-slams-dissenting-teams-on-exploding-tire-debacle/

It’s a sad state of affairs but such is the nature of Formula 1, really. It’s been fairly clear that there’s been a number of worrying tyre failures through the year. Pirelli came up with a solution for that, with a different construction, and that was being offered initially for Montreal. But two or three teams vetoed that because they were worried it would suit some other teams more than it would suit them. As a result of that short-sightedness, Formula 1 ended up putting up the worrying performance it did [at Silverstone] and concerns about driver safety.

[myownalias]

Adrian Newey's view is quite interesting.

http://www.formula1blog.com/2013/07/01/newey-slams-dissenting-teams-on-exploding-tire-debacle/

It’s a sad state of affairs but such is the nature of Formula 1, really. It’s been fairly clear that there’s been a number of worrying tyre failures through the year. Pirelli came up with a solution for that, with a different construction, and that was being offered initially for Montreal. But two or three teams vetoed that because they were worried it would suit some other teams more than it would suit them. As a result of that short-sightedness, Formula 1 ended up putting up the worrying performance it did [at Silverstone] and concerns about driver safety.

There is also the issue of Pirelli refusing to call it a safety issue; which meant that teams could veto the change of tyre design, if it's a safety concern, teams have no veto!

[LewEngBridewell]

I bet Pirelli can't wait to get the hell out. What a miserable experience for them.