2020 Austrian GP

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Re: 2020 Austrian GP

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John Doe wrote: 05 Jul 20, 20:35
overboost wrote: 05 Jul 20, 18:54
John Doe wrote: 05 Jul 20, 15:48 Hamilton says: End to racism.
Ferrari International Association says: No.

Ridiculous 3 positions penalty in grid didn't help. Ridiculous 5+ seconds penalty. Vettel caused a collision earlier, no penalty.
The penalty to Hamilton has been seen by most as far too lenient. It was purposely done with his front wheel on Albon's rear and a very large impact on albon. Albon's race was ruined.

Minimum a drive through penalty.

And the 3 grid drop? He broke the safety rules. That's what happens, you get penalized.

The real issue here with Hamilton on the safety violation is that he lied to the stewards, said he didn't see a yellow panel, or see the yellow on his dash, and didn't hear the tone in his earpiece. He has done this before in Aus'09. Why are they letting him off in Austria? Should be given a race off to think about it.
Yet another racist here.

It is completely wrong. We have seen such touches and more severe ones from Ferrari before with no punishment at all. Go watch 2017-2018-2019 races. Hamilton didn't do anything wrong there.
Vettel's deliberate dive in was more clear than that, yet got no penalty.
On 1st lap Albon should get a penalty with your mindset. Hamilton protected himself.
Because Hamilton is penalized obviously we are all racists.
And Vettel not being penalized for his spin is your proof of this racism.
This is your actual thought process? It is rather pathetic.

How about the obvious - Hamilton purposefully caused Albon to spin off track and was penalized.

You call his act of colliding with Albon ''protecting himself'. However in the rule book this sort of 'protecting yourself' by causing a collision is a violation of the rules. Not permitted. If Hamilton wants to keep his spot he needs to drive faster, properly defend or re-pass that car. Punting Albon off the road is not allowed. And yes, in my opinion a 5s penalty was far too lenient for this incident.

Your racism angle is bogus and using racism to try and win a F1 argument is actually deplorable. It is too important an issue to trivialize this way.
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Re: 2020 Austrian GP

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Did SV completely ruin CS's race? No.
Did SV get penalized by the incident itself by ending up at the end of the field? Yes.
Did LH completely ruin AA's race? Yes.
Did LH get penalized by the incident itself? No, he even maintained position.
Maybe, just maybe these questions and answers played into the stewards decision and maybe, just maybe you should consider them as well instead of hurling wild accusations of racism at everybody...
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Re: 2020 Austrian GP

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Nice to see 2 Canadians in F1. Its been quite awhile since there were 2 on track racing at the same time.
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Neither is a Gilles though. Not. Even. Close.
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Nor Jacques sad to say. I’ve always thought that F1 needs an American driver to help grow the sport stateside and generate at least 1 more race in N. Am.
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Greg Moore would have been a natural. But not to be.
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Re: 2020 Austrian GP

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How right you are :)

Stewards proved that you were right on second Austria GP.

Did Albon ruin SP's race. Yes. Was he penalized? No.
Did Leclerc ruin SV and other 2 cars' race? Yes. Was he penalized? No "No investigations necessary" :)
Did Verstappen push McLaren off limits? Yes. Was he penalized? No.
(If it were Hamilton, then it would be "Hamilton purposefully caused McLaren to spin off track")

These are only from the last race.
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I agree with Greg Moore. Would have loved to have seen him in F1.