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[myownalias]

Merged the above post with existing thread discussion the NBC takeover of F1 rights in the USA!

Now for my two cents on the post; bad news for F1 in the USA, yes the first four maybe free-to-air but having it PPV after that will put many off. Yes Speed was a subscription channel but it wasn't pay-per-view; I don't believe that F1 is popular enough in the USA to make it a pay-per-view event.

[darwin dali]

I think there is a confusion going on about terminology: GPUpdate doesn't know the difference between Pay-per-View and cable subscription as it's understood here in the US. They call the Speed Channel coverage Pay-per-View when it's not (you have to subscribe to a cable package, but it's not paying per individual race like you'd do for an individual Pay-per-View event such as a big boxing match or a big concert). So, everybody calm down, there's still hope that not much will change other than the channel and maybe the commentators.

[myownalias]

I think there is a confusion going on about terminology: GPUpdate doesn't know the difference between Pay-per-View and cable subscription as it's understood here in the US. They call the Speed Channel coverage Pay-per-View when it's not (you have to subscribe to a cable package, but it's not paying per individual race like you'd do for an individual Pay-per-View event such as a big boxing match or a big concert). So, everybody calm down, there's still hope that not much will change other than the channel and maybe the commentators.

I'm perfectly calm; I won't be watching the US coverage of the F1 anyway; I'm happy with my choice of the BBC or SKY TV; I wasn't very impressed with Speed's coverage in my first year in the US!

[What's Burning?]

I think there is a confusion going on about terminology: GPUpdate doesn't know the difference between Pay-per-View and cable subscription as it's understood here in the US. They call the Speed Channel coverage Pay-per-View when it's not (you have to subscribe to a cable package, but it's not paying per individual race like you'd do for an individual Pay-per-View event such as a big boxing match or a big concert). So, everybody calm down, there's still hope that not much will change other than the channel and maybe the commentators.

Agreed, and I hope we get a some new commentators... good riddance to Bob Varsha.

[acosmichippo]

I'm actually happy about this if I can purchase F1 viewing separately from cable. I have no interest in cable, so I'm hoping I can stream online with NBC. I'll be more than happy to pay if it's solid coverage.

If not, I'll just continue my illicit downloading.

[Stealthgate007]

Im watching NBC Sports Network right now, and I can't quit or downgrade as it is a premium sports channel. They say there is going to be 100+ hours of F1 including practice and qualifying.. I'll hold my breath and hope for the best.

[darwin dali]

Im watching NBC Sports Network right now, and I can't quit or downgrade as it is a premium sports channel. They say there is going to be 100+ hours of F1 including practice and qualifying.. I'll hold my breath and hope for the best.

100 hrs / 20 races = 5 hrs per race.
Hoping they didn't count the 4 over-the-air broadcast, then the math would be 100/16=7 hrs, which would be adequate.

[Stealthgate007]

Im watching NBC Sports Network right now, and I can't quit or downgrade as it is a premium sports channel. They say there is going to be 100+ hours of F1 including practice and qualifying.. I'll hold my breath and hope for the best.

100 hrs / 20 races = 5 hrs per race.
Hoping they didn't count the 4 over-the-air broadcast, then the math would be 100/16=7 hrs, which would be adequate.

I think they did exclude the 4 summer races to be aired (non cable)..

[darwin dali]

Im watching NBC Sports Network right now, and I can't quit or downgrade as it is a premium sports channel. They say there is going to be 100+ hours of F1 including practice and qualifying.. I'll hold my breath and hope for the best.

100 hrs / 20 races = 5 hrs per race.
Hoping they didn't count the 4 over-the-air broadcast, then the math would be 100/16=7 hrs, which would be adequate.

I think they did exclude the 4 summer races to be aired (non cable)..

Ok, please keep us posted if you hear more details...

[myownalias]

Im watching NBC Sports Network right now, and I can't quit or downgrade as it is a premium sports channel. They say there is going to be 100+ hours of F1 including practice and qualifying.. I'll hold my breath and hope for the best.

Hmm, could well price a lot of people out of F1 watching; it's costs $60 for the standard 60 channel cable package, how much extra is NBC Sports Network on top?

[What's Burning?]

Im watching NBC Sports Network right now, and I can't quit or downgrade as it is a premium sports channel. They say there is going to be 100+ hours of F1 including practice and qualifying.. I'll hold my breath and hope for the best.

Hmm, could well price a lot of people out of F1 watching; it's costs $60 for the standard 60 channel cable package, how much extra is NBC Sports Network on top?

It's included in my premium package then again I'm pissing away about 240 a month for cable and Internet. I think it's a relatively moot point, the demographics for your garden variety F1 fan mean they've likely already got access to NBC Sports.

Ironically the worst coverage we've gotten in recent years past has been when the races were tape delayed so they could be shown on FOX. This year though when they did that they also had a post race show on SPEED that included extended driver interviews.

[Stealthgate007]

Here is some more information and tentative airing schedule

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2012 ... 1015nbc03/


NEW YORK - Oct. 15, 2012 - NBC Sports Group and Formula One Management, the top international open-wheel racing series promoter, announced a four-year partnership today that begins with the 2013 season and provides NBC Sports Group with exclusive U.S. media rights to all Formula 1(TM) Grand Prix races, qualifying and practice sessions on all platforms and devices.

NBC Sports Group will televise all 20 F1(TM) races -- four on NBC and 16 on NBC Sports Network -- as well as qualifying, practice sessions, studio shows and re-airs that amount to more than 100 hours of programming annually. The Grand Prix of Canada in June as well as the final three races of the 2013 season in November will air on NBC, while the remaining 16 races will air on NBC Sports Network.

All 20 F1(TM)races will be live streamed on NBC Sports Live Extra, the NBC Sports Group's live-stream platform that is available online at NBCSports.com as well as on mobile and tablet apps.

"We are thrilled to add the top international open-wheel racing series to our already-strong motorsports portfolio," said Jon Miller, President, Programming, NBC Sports and NBC Sports Network. "Formula 1 is a perfect fit for the NBC Sports Group as it provides content across three platforms - broadcast, cable and digital - for nine months a year with more than 100 hours of premier programming annually."

"NBC and its various media assets have a huge profile throughout the United States and I am obviously delighted to have concluded this agreement. I feel that they will promote Formula One to a level not seen before in the United States," said Bernie Ecclestone, Formula One Group(TM) CEO. "I very much look forward to working with NBC. Together, we will endeavour to broaden the scope of Formula One coverage available to U.S. viewers incorporating additional digital content in particular that has not been available before." The 2013 F1(TM) Grand Prix schedule includes 20 races in 19 countries from March through November, including the Austin, Texas, race on Sunday, November 17 on NBC. The 2013 season begins on Sunday, March 17 in Australia on NBC Sports Network and concludes on Sunday, Nov. 24 in Brazil on NBC. NBC's first race will be the Grand Prix of Canada, which will be broadcast on Sunday, June 9. The famed Grand Prix of Monaco is scheduled for Sunday, May 26, on NBC Sports Network. Additional programming and scheduling information, as well as on-air commentators, will be announced at a later date.

2013 FORMULA 1(TM) SCHEDULE (SUBJECT TO CHANGE; TIMES TBA)

Date Grand Prix Network*
Sunday, March 17 Australia NBC Sports Network
Sunday, March 24 Malaysia NBC Sports Network
Sunday, April 14 China NBC Sports Network
Sunday, April 21 Bahrain NBC Sports Network
Sunday, May 12 Spain (Barcelona) NBC Sports Network
Sunday, May 26 Monaco NBC Sports Network
Sunday, June 9 Canada NBC
Sunday, June 16 TBD NBC Sports Network
Sunday, June 30 United Kingdom NBC Sports Network
Sunday, July 14 Germany NBC Sports Network
Sunday, July 28 Hungary NBC Sports Network
Sunday, Aug. 25 Belgium NBC Sports Network
Sunday, Sept. 8 Italy NBC Sports Network
Sunday, Sept. 22 Singapore NBC Sports Network
Sunday, Oct. 6 Korea NBC Sports Network
Sunday, Oct. 13 Japan NBC Sports Network
Sunday, Oct. 27 India NBC Sports Network
Sunday, Nov. 3 Abu Dhabi NBC
Sunday, Nov. 17 USA (Austin) NBC
Sunday, Nov. 24 Brazil NBC

*All races will be live streamed on NBC Sports Live Extra, the NBC Sports Group's live-stream platform that is available online at NBCSports.com as well as on mobile and tablet apps.

ABOUT NBC SPORTS GROUP'S MOTORSPORTS COVERAGE

NBC Sports Group is one of the leading media companies for motorsports coverage in the U.S., providing more than 200 hours of programming annually across its broadcast, cable and digital platforms. Since 2009, NBC Sports Network has been the cable-television partner for the IZOD IndyCar Series, presenting as many as 10 races each year as well as qualifying, practice, Indy Lights and IndyCar 36 programming. Beginning in 2013, NBC Sports Group will be the exclusive U.S. media rights holder to all Formula 1(TM) Grand Prix races, qualifying and practice sessions on all platforms and devices. Races will air on NBC and NBC Sports Network, and will be live streamed on NBC Sports Live Extra. NBC Sports Group also airs Lucas Oil Motorsports, RacerTV, and motocross events.




Read more at http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2012 ... mWCrlHz.99

[What's Burning?]

*All races will be live streamed on NBC Sports Live Extra, the NBC Sports Group's live-stream platform that is available online at NBCSports.com as well as on mobile and tablet apps."

This is the line that scares me most, as it gives them an excuse to not show an event live on TV, it gives them an excuse to override coverage or worse, preempt coverage of a GP because of some other NBC event and the reality is that 100 hours of coverage is not enough to cover, practice sessions, all of qualifying and the race itself. How much plus is in that 100 plus?

Given the choice between streaming an television, I'm always going to go for the format that allows me to not only record it watch it on my own time and then save it for as long as I want to, I'm always going to opt for the format that allows me to watch it on a big screen, sitting in my comfy lounge chair, and fast forward through commercials.

[darwin dali]

*All races will be live streamed on NBC Sports Live Extra, the NBC Sports Group's live-stream platform that is available online at NBCSports.com as well as on mobile and tablet apps."

This is the line that scares me most, as it gives them an excuse to not show an event live on TV, it gives them an excuse to override coverage or worse, preempt coverage of a GP because of some other NBC event and the reality is that 100 hours of coverage is not enough to cover, practice sessions, all of qualifying and the race itself. How much plus is in that 100 plus?

Given the choice between streaming an television, I'm always going to go for the format that allows me to not only record it watch it on my own time and then save it for as long as I want to, I'm always going to opt for the format that allows me to watch it on a big screen, sitting in my comfy lounge chair, and fast forward through commercials.

[What's Burning?]

Today was the last day of F1 on Speed. They had an emotional farewell special post race... my thoughts, I'm getting tired of the old geezers, and I'm glad they're not taking Varsha with them.

The things we put up with in the US, three commentators were unaware that when you change from options to inters during a race you no longer have to use the prime tires. The same three were looking out for cars getting within DRS distance of the cars in front while it was raining on track.

We deserve better.