8 killed at motor race in US

8 killed at motor race in US#211528

By racechick - 15 Aug 10, 11:19

- 15 Aug 10, 11:19#211528

An all terrain race in California saw 8 people killed and 12 injured. Apparantly the vehicle went in the air and schewed sideways and into the crowds. The crowds stand very close at these events. The driver was uninjured but fled the scene as he was stoned by other spectators :yikes:

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Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211530

By McLaren - 15 Aug 10, 12:00

- 15 Aug 10, 12:00#211530

Nasty.RIP and get well soon to all involved.

Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211553

By myownalias - 15 Aug 10, 19:02

- 15 Aug 10, 19:02#211553

It's always sad when spectators die in motorsports events, I think organisers should be held responsible for not maintaining proper barriers and crowd control. This was an issue in WRC where it was common for spectators to get killed by the trackside because of cars losing control, I remember times seeing spectators getting literally involved righting cars after ending on their roof. I don't know if that still happens, I haven't watched WRC for some time since most of the manufacturers pulled their support!

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Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211566

By darwin dali - 15 Aug 10, 22:14

- 15 Aug 10, 22:14#211566

It's always sad when spectators die in motorsports events, I think organisers should be held responsible for not maintaining proper barriers and crowd control. This was an issue in WRC where it was common for spectators to get killed by the trackside because of cars losing control, I remember times seeing spectators getting literally involved righting cars after ending on their roof. I don't know if that still happens, I haven't watched WRC for some time since most of the manufacturers pulled their support!

50 miles (the length of the 'track') is an awful lot to put barriers around...

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Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211579

By myownalias - 16 Aug 10, 02:43

- 16 Aug 10, 02:43#211579

It's always sad when spectators die in motorsports events, I think organisers should be held responsible for not maintaining proper barriers and crowd control. This was an issue in WRC where it was common for spectators to get killed by the trackside because of cars losing control, I remember times seeing spectators getting literally involved righting cars after ending on their roof. I don't know if that still happens, I haven't watched WRC for some time since most of the manufacturers pulled their support!

50 miles (the length of the 'track') is an awful lot to put barriers around...

I did say "and crowd control" - marshalls and that sort of thing to keep people away from the edge of the track, even if it's just red and white police cordon.

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Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211583

By FerrariFan63 - 16 Aug 10, 05:11

- 16 Aug 10, 05:11#211583

50 miles is too long even for a police cordon. I don't know what can be done to make rallies safer. I wouldn't want to hang around on a corner with rally cars coming past. But if others want to do it at teir own risk, that's up to them.

Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211584

By bud - 16 Aug 10, 05:32

- 16 Aug 10, 05:32#211584

fans attend motor racing events at their own risks. There is disclaimers on tickets. As for Rallies well it doesn't take much common sense to realise watching cars go past you at speed with no barriers is a dangerous way to spend your sunday afternoon.

Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211585

By myownalias - 16 Aug 10, 06:31

- 16 Aug 10, 06:31#211585

fans attend motor racing events at their own risks.

I find that amazing in this day and age, health and safety nation n'all... there is so much that you can not do in daily life because of H&S but standing in front of a speeding car is absolutely fine... what a bizarre world we live in... :rolleyes:

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Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211588

By racechick - 16 Aug 10, 06:40

- 16 Aug 10, 06:40#211588

It does say so at events. Even at Silverstone with all its health and safety considerations it says it in big letters at the track and also on the tickets.

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abe Lincoln

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Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211589

By SaintDean - 16 Aug 10, 08:31

- 16 Aug 10, 08:31#211589

It's always sad when spectators die in motorsports events, I think organisers should be held responsible for not maintaining proper barriers and crowd control. This was an issue in WRC where it was common for spectators to get killed by the trackside because of cars losing control, I remember times seeing spectators getting literally involved righting cars after ending on their roof. I don't know if that still happens, I haven't watched WRC for some time since most of the manufacturers pulled their support!

Most spectators act as marshalls, i watched one in monte carlo i think it was the irc and he dug himself into some ditch/bush and about a dozen helped free the car.

Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211615

By myownalias - 16 Aug 10, 14:43

- 16 Aug 10, 14:43#211615

It does say so at events. Even at Silverstone with all its health and safety considerations it says it in big letters at the track and also on the tickets.

Different situation at Silverstone, it's not 50 miles through a forest. Can you even get access to the track during practice/quali/race sessions without climbing a fence?

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Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211688

By MattMK45 - 17 Aug 10, 14:13

- 17 Aug 10, 14:13#211688

There was a dispute when the family of a deceased rally fan blamed the forestation comitee that the trees that a driver's car hit into were too frail and broke too easily. Upon impact the tree snapped and came down on the spectator and seriously injuring another bystander. Really odd case and really unfortunate too.

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Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211699

By f1ea - 17 Aug 10, 16:19

- 17 Aug 10, 16:19#211699

Something like that happened a long time ago when i was a kid, in a race i went. It was a GT race in the 80's.....
I was standing with my father on the inside of the curve (close to a hairpin)... lots of people were on the outside. We felt it was super exciting (but dangerous!) to be on the outside, and decided to move even from the inside to a safer place... about 20 mins later we heard the panic. A car got rear ended into the turn, lost control and took out like 14 people standing on the outside of the turn, killed 6.

The sound of a car hitting people is very creepy

Came out fighting indeed.

Re: 8 killed at motor race in US#211704

By darwin dali - 17 Aug 10, 16:35

- 17 Aug 10, 16:35#211704

Something like that happened a long time ago when i was a kid, in a race i went. It was a GT race in the 80's.....
I was standing with my father on the inside of the curve (close to a hairpin)... lots of people were on the outside. We felt it was super exciting (but dangerous!) to be on the outside, and decided to move even from the inside to a safer place... about 20 mins later we heard the panic. A car got rear ended into the turn, lost control and took out like 14 people standing on the outside of the turn, killed 6. The sound of a car hitting people is very creepy