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Tokens killed the F1 star.

I was reading that in 2012 (pre tokens) the estimated value of F1 was $12.5B. Four years later Liberty basically got the whole deal at fire sale prices at only $8B.

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Here is the article - http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/ ... 97af63273b

[darwin dali]

For the youngins on here:

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[myownalias]

Expansion in N Am would hopefully force the series to be more competitive. NASCAR, NFL, MLB etc are hugely successful in part because of the competition. If F1 is too expensive for many of the teams to be truly competitive maybe it's time to move away from factory teams. Teams can buy the most current and best chassis, engines etc or complete car and modify more like the old days of F1. .

I think this is the crux of the issue with F1 expansion; fair weather fans will not pay the extortionate ticket prices needed just for the venue to break even due to FOM's race hosting fees. When you factor in other costs like travel, hotels, food and such, suddenly the cost of attending a race weekend gets very expensive.

[sagi58]

ESPNF1:

...Hopefully good news for us stateside fans...

Don't forget us Canadians!!

[sagi58]

...fair weather fans will not pay the extortionate ticket prices needed just for the venue to break even due to FOM's race hosting fees. When you factor in other costs like travel, hotels, food and such, suddenly the cost of attending a race weekend gets very expensive.

Maybe this will be a talking point and F1 will be more accessible and more affordable.

[darwin dali]

ESPNF1:

...Hopefully good news for us stateside fans...

Don't forget us Canadians!!

Sorry for not acknowledging the 51st state in a separate mention

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The 51st state has as many F1 races as all the other states combined. And many would say a better race as well!

Although Austin is a great venue imo.

[darwin dali]

I can see another race in the contiguous 48 states - not so much an additional one in the 51st

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F1 rumour mill is in full production:

Ecclestone is out after Abu Dhabi after fight with new owner Malone.

Ferrari could be leaving after losing money to new owner Malone.

Red Bull may not want to buy in and may bow out due to Malone's franchise restructure plan.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns34774.html


"US media tycoon John Malone, whose 'Darth Vader' nickname was coined by Al Gore, was understood to have signed the F1 supremo to a new three-year deal as he moved to take over the sport's commercial rights from CVC.

But Germany's Auto Bild claims that Ecclestone, 85, and 75-year-old Malone may already have clashed, with the current F1 chief executive now set to vacate his role after November's season finale in Abu Dhabi.

The same report said Malone and Ferrari president Sergio Marchionne are also clashing, with the former wanting to end the fabled Italian team's special annual bonus payments.

"Sue me!" Malone is quoted as having told Marchionne during recent negotiations. "I have the time and the money.""

[darwin dali]

Libtery Media wants race ticket prices to drop dramatically to about EUR 150 million for a weekend pass

A tad steep I'd say...

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I can see another race in the contiguous 48 states - not so much an additional one in the 51st

Ahh but you underestimate the attractiveness and alure of Vancouver. Also Toronto, the centre of the universe (just ask them), will not be taking a back seat to those other more inferior cities in the rest of NA.

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Libtery Media wants race ticket prices to drop dramatically to about EUR 150 million for a weekend pass

A tad steep I'd say...

Pocket change to Malone! Keep in mind that you are getting the whole weekend.

[darwin dali]

I can see another race in the contiguous 48 states - not so much an additional one in the 51st

Ahh but you underestimate the attractiveness and alure of Vancouver. Also Toronto, the centre of the universe (just ask them), will not be taking a back seat to those other more inferior cities in NA.

I do NOT underestimate Vancouver - it's my favorite city in North America! Still no chance for such a small market to have more races when the pressure is on from the US.

[sagi58]

ESPNF1:

...Hopefully good news for us stateside fans...

Don't forget us Canadians!!

Sorry for not acknowledging the 51st state in a separate mention

ha... ha... ha...

[sagi58]

I can see another race in the contiguous 48 states - not so much an additional one in the 51st

T.O. ... Hogtown... T. Dot... whatever you want to call "us",
deserves a race besides the Honda Indy...