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#439953
F1 has been going in the wrong direction ever since we have gone down the road relevance route...

Whose "brain child" was that idea? :irked:

The car manufacturers, prior to Mercedes returning to F1.... Renault, Honda, BMW, Toyota back in the mid 2000s.
#439956
F1 has been going in the wrong direction ever since we have gone down the road relevance route...

Whose "brain child" was that idea? :irked:

The car manufacturers, prior to Mercedes returning to F1.... Renault, Honda, BMW, Toyota back in the mid 2000s.

The same manufacturers who have had a love-hate relationship with F1?
Did they also want to "help" write the rules and that's why we're here today?
#440467
Wolff says that the competitors have closed the gap enough so no further changes are needed!

This is from the team principal who has won 6 of the 7 races this season and only lost in Spain because his drivers crashed each other out!

Also he has already managed to keep the Mercedes friendly fuel restrictions in place for 2017 now he wants any other changes cancelled.

Lets hope that 2017 will be allowed to happen and that real competition is again permitted in F1, not Mercedes version of 'competition' where they win all the races.

"After two easy title wins and almost unprecedented dominance for Mercedes in the current power unit era, the sport decided to turn a corner for 2017 with faster, wider cars and wider tires.

But Mercedes team boss Wolff says that radical change is now looming despite the fact that rivals including Ferrari and Red Bull are looking increasingly close to the leading pace.

"We are slowly getting back to a more normal situation in Formula One," he said in Montreal. "For two years we were in the fortunate position of being the dominant team, but now we see that the gap between the top three teams shrinks. All these years we were saying that if you leave the rules alone and don't change them, the balance of power would equalize and the fight would be closer. And so it happened.

"From the racing excitement side everything is now OK, but next year we are changing the rules yet again.""


http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one ... ange-rules?
#440904
Pirelli to end high degradation tires for 2017. :thumbup:

Now can we also scrap the fuel economy restrictions and get back to actual racing??

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/07/15/f ... 7-pirelli/
#440906
As well, Pirelli should not be the one dictating what tires are to be used at which race!
Maybe they can ""suggest"" which tire would be best suited and leave the rest to the strategists!!

There's a slight problem though: if something goes wrong because the strategists miscalculated or got greedy, Pirelli inevitably gets blamed.
We already have Jules Bianchi's dad suing...
#440928
As well, Pirelli should not be the one dictating what tires are to be used at which race!
Maybe they can ""suggest"" which tire would be best suited and leave the rest to the strategists!!

There's a slight problem though: if something goes wrong because the strategists miscalculated or got greedy, Pirelli inevitably gets blamed.
We already have Jules Bianchi's dad suing...

If Pirelli makes their suggestion/recommendation, it would have to be based on calculations.
If that information isn't already shared with teams, then it should be. And, if it is, surely it isn't
fair/just that Pirelli be faulted for what strategists decide?
#441478
Hamilton sitting out 2017 tire testing due to a tender foot.

World champion Lewis Hamilton will not drive in Pirelli's Barcelona F1 test today as he has decided to rest a sore foot.

The Briton was originally scheduled to drive the Mercedes on the opening day of testing on Wednesday, but it was teammate Nico Rosberg who did the driving instead.

Hamilton felt discomfort in his foot after training on Tuesday and has decided to skip the test in order to be fully ready for the United States Grand Prix next week.

Mercedes' reserve driver Pascal Wehrlein, currently racing for Manor, has replaced Hamilton in the car.

The British driver is yet to test Pirelli's 2017 tyres.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamil ... st-838039/
#441480
More 2017 development talk from Williams:

"The aerodynamic gains being made through Formula 1's incoming 2017 technical regulations are "staggering", according to Williams chief technical officer Pat Symonds.

The revamped regulations are headlined by wider front and rear wings and tyres, with a view to making F1 cars three-to-five seconds per lap faster.

On paper, they also offer teams such as Williams, which has fallen from third to fifth in the constructors' championship, an opportunity to jump back up the order.

While encouraged by Williams's 2017 progress, Symonds acknowledges that there is no reference point, and he is also mindful of what its rivals could be doing.

Asked how the team is shaping up for 2017 by Autosport, Symonds said: "It's really hard to say because the gains we are making on aerodynamics on next year's car are just staggering.

"Every week in the windtunnel it's just pulling downforce onto the thing, but I can't believe we are alone on that.

"I'm sure that's happening in 11 windtunnels around the world, so you just never know.

"We normally have targets for what we're going to achieve in aerodynamics, but next year you can't say because you don't know what the target is.

"You can say it's an aspiration, a likelihood or whatever, but you just don't know what the targets are until we go testing and see where everyone else is.""


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... -taggering
#441481
Ferrari encouraged by 2017 power unit development

"Ferrari as making good progress with the development of its 2017 power unit, according to head of power unit operations Luigi Fraboni.

New regulations in 2017 will allow engine manufacturers to develop their power units without the limitations of development tokens. Previously, manufacturers could only spend 32 tokens updating their power units, with certain components costing a different amount of tokens to modify.

With such restrictions removed, Fraboni says the fact Ferrari was the first manufacturer to spend all of its power unit tokens this year highlights how aggressive it can be at developing its engine.

"You know, as Ferrari, we are in favour of not having the tokens, this for us is a good thing," Fraboni said. "Of course next year you will have still the four power units so we need to follow the rule, but not have the tokens will give you more flexibility on making you plan and also on changes during the season.

"On our side, as you know, we already used the tokens this year so this means that we had quite a strong evolution during the season and so not having this this limit for next season is good and at the moment the development of the power unit for 2017 is proceeding quite well.""

http://en.f1i.com/news/75801-ferrari-en ... pment.html
#441675
Button admits the token rules have gutted the sport and that the return of development in 2017 will 'reinvigorate' F1.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... o-boost-f1

"Jenson Button believes the possibility of a development race returning will reinvigorate Formula 1 in 2017.

By the end of this season, the regulations will have been stable for three successive campaigns and Toto Wolff admitted recently Mercedes has "maxed out" on the performance possible under the current rules.

Next year, the aerodynamic and engine regulations have been revised, resulting in faster, wider cars with fatter tyres, while power unit suppliers are no longer restrained by the token system.

Button reckons this will give much greater opportunity for teams' form to fluctuate through a season, citing the example of McLaren coming back from a poor start in 2009 to fight at the front later in the year.

"The big changes next year are positive," said Button, who will take a sabbatical from F1 next season. "That's great for the sport.

"You'll see big progress through the year, which is also what people like seeing.

"Back in the day you could start with a car that wasn't so competitive and you could develop it through the year like what McLaren did in 2009. Now you can't do that.

"You start with a car that's quick and win races through the year or you start with a car that isn't quick and it's not quick at the end of the year."

Button still believes McLaren has shown the biggest improvement in the field since it reformed its alliance with Honda last year.

"The development curve is difficult with how restrictive the regulations are," he said.

"In terms of development we've done the best of the last two years but we've also come from a low position.

"That is one thing that's missing, the development through the year. And that'll be big next year with development through a season - that'll make racing a lot more fun.

"Gone are the days of putting on a second of downforce in one race and suddenly finding yourself in a winning position."
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