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Apple flying high

Postby darwin dali » 21 Aug 12, 01:15

Most valuable company in history
Curious about the iPhone5 and TV... :morepopcorn:
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby Hammer278 » 21 Aug 12, 03:27

Power of fantastic marketing backed by early innovation.

iPhone5 would be the iPhone4s with a couple of extra cute functions which us humans don't really need, but priced the same/cheaper than the 4S. Should look exactly the same, maybe a little curve on the sides or a touch up of new paint color near the screen.
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby myownalias » 21 Aug 12, 15:05

It's all my fault for buying a damn iPad 2, now I have to buy five Galaxy Tab 2 10.1s to restore the balance!

Apple could be living on borrowed time; Motorola Mobility, who were bought by Google is talking about playing Apple at it's own game, Motorola own a lot of patents that make the iPhone/iPad work! Click the link --> https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+c ... nned+in+us - there's a whole bunch of articles relating to this news story!
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby What's Burning? » 21 Aug 12, 15:40

it all comes down to design and functionality. How often doe we see something truly innovative come along? Motorola owned the market years ago... practically invented cellular and they let that slip away. They then revolutionized the market with the Razor and rested on those laurels without doing anything to keep that market share. RIM got caught doing the same thing... a very good product, did one thing and did it fantastically yet they thought business needed them instead of the other way around.

Until the iPone.

Apple, like them or not has a history of making revolutionary products that people want, and crave. I've never purchased an Apple product (with the exception of an iPod mini) since I'm fortunate enough to be handed things to test and use through my job function. The reason for that is that I just can't get over the 30 to 40% price premium over a similarly spec'd PC. But that doesn't mean that I don't appreciate their design philosophy and thoughtful attention to detail in their products right down to the unboxing experience.
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby myownalias » 21 Aug 12, 16:17

WB, you mention that Motorola and RIM (Blackberry to the rest of the World) rested on their laurels, Apple are doing the exact same, the iPhone/iPad hasn't shown any innovation since they were originally released. Android, being open source is a constantly innovating, the Android OS is getting better by the day while iOS really hasn't changed too much. iOS has added some bells and whistles but nothing ground-breaking or innovative, iOS updates are incremental, no jump in design or technology, yes you have Retina displays but that isn't new tech, it's just another HD display!
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby What's Burning? » 21 Aug 12, 16:29

Revolutionary devices don't come along that often. I was meaning more along the lines of the iPod and the iPhone where they pretty much created an industry.

I don't dispute the Android benefits... I can use any device since I get a new one every month but no one has the fan base the ferver that Apple fans have... they're worse than Hamilton fans. :hehe:

Android is not innovative, they pretty much took the apple design of an iPhone and have been trying to improve it and make it better for four years now and they're still not as functional in an enterprise environment than Apple. Android releases just as much incremental cr@p ware and there is a tremendous amount of fragmentation because each manufacturer not only picks and chooses the API's they want to include but also edit them to make their OS look unique when more often than not it simply gets in the way.

The retina display, the integration with iTunes, the compass, level, gyroscope, granted not revolutionary but all things that were found in an iPhone first. So I do give them credit where credit is due, even if I don't give them my money. :hehe:
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby vaptin » 21 Aug 12, 16:39

I think it's not so much that Apple's products are poor, they're just good at building up a brand, and hence having people who will always buy Apple, buy the latest version and hence Apple can price their products more than the usual market rate considering their products features and functionality.

They've done this by good advertising, making their products look and feel flashy, and through monopolising spirit: designing their products mainly to work with their other products, and limiting the access for third parties.
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby myownalias » 21 Aug 12, 16:58

I'm not arguing that Apple made a great device back in 2007 with the iPhone, but they really haven't done very much except add a number to the end of iPhone and charge a premium for what is basically the same device as it's predecessor. From a point of development and pushing the technology and market further, I believe Android and the open source community is doing much more.

Apple is trying to kill competition through legal means, instead of innovating and making their devices the best out there, owning an Android tablet and an iPad 2, I think they are about equal on usability and productivity, at the rate Android is progressing, they will overtake Apple in the development stakes. I have no issue with Apple's products, infact I quite like the iPad 2 but I dislike them as a company because of their litigate, not innovate business strategy. If they used all that energy to innovate that they have put into litigation, imagine what a great product they'd have.

Steve Jobs famously said he'd spend every penny of Apple's worth on destroying Android... this says it all about Apple really!
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby andrew » 21 Aug 12, 17:04

Apple created a market that didn't really exist with thier fashion accessory i-range.

They've not got to me though. I still don't own anything that begins with i-. :hehe:
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby What's Burning? » 21 Aug 12, 17:19

i-ntelligence? :whip:
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby andrew » 21 Aug 12, 17:23

I'll rephrase. I don't own any Apple product.
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby What's Burning? » 21 Aug 12, 17:28

My favorite device is still a two year old Samsung device running Android 2.2. Why? Because it got a day and a half of run time without a charge!
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby myownalias » 21 Aug 12, 17:29

What's Burning? wrote:i-ntelligence? :whip:


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What's Burning? wrote:My favorite device is still a two year old Samsung device running Android 2.2. Why? Because it got a day and a half of run time without a charge!

My phone stills runs 2.3.3; works fine for me, most of the time, has a 2 - 3 day battery life with moderate use.
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby What's Burning? » 21 Aug 12, 17:43

You're in America now! You know we want the 60GB model.
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Re: Apple flying high

Postby myownalias » 21 Aug 12, 18:01

What's Burning? wrote:You're in America now! You know we want the 60GB model.

After testing the 60GB model was withdrawn because of the dangers of getting two black eyes, when dancing to your tunes...
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