2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

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Re: Consistency in Penalties ?

Postby Hammer278 » 25 Jun 12, 09:44

Lol yeah Kobayashi gets a 5 place penalty for doing almost nothing wrong, and Malda***** loses 1 solitary stupid point for ramming his car into another WDC contender while he's off the track. Stellar job from the stewards again, thumbs up. :thumbup:
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby Hammer278 » 25 Jun 12, 09:46

vaptin wrote:
spankyham wrote:The real story though IMO is the speed of the Red Bull.


Yes, Vettel qualified on pole by a pretty big margin, ran away with the lead for the race, from Lewis and Grosjean wasn't able to catch up too whilst Webber qualified 19th and ended up 4th.

Another point is the advantage of fresh tyres due to not making it into Q3, Schumacher finished ahead of Rosberg, Alonso and Webber obviously. I think we're close to drivers not being too bothered about Q3 anymore.


Nothing special from Redbull to be honest. McLaren did not deserve that 2nd spot in terms of pace, and Grosjean was being held up big time by Hamilton...as soon as he was past, he was easily matching Vettel's time. McLaren made Redbull look supreme here, let's not forget even they were surprised to qualify 2nd.
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby MACH141 » 25 Jun 12, 09:57

Hamilton was worried all the weekend because he Know he cant match the cars in the front and in the back but as usual he did a great job to stay in the top 3 most of the race,
for my view Mclaren need a lot of upgrades in the next race in order to stay in the top 3 otherwise they should forget about the competing with Red bull ,Renault and Ferrari.
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby PartsaS » 25 Jun 12, 09:59

Redbull's pace was not a surprise in Valencia, especially after the new aero magic applied on the car by Newey. They will be very difficult to beat, on grip demanding tracks, like this one. But this year lotus has been really fast and, who knows where would they've been if they had a driver like Hamilton or Alonso, (not that Raikkonen isn't good enough, but I think he needs some time to settle in after his break). I guess they will be on plenty of podiums this season. and they might end 3rd in WCC. welldone lotus :clap:

McL it's time for upgrades, you've already messed up strategies and pitstops, (costing maybe the wdc) at least keep the cars pace up there... and give Button an electroshock or an enema to wake him up, :shrug:
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby cheekybru » 25 Jun 12, 10:09

PartsaS wrote:Redbull's pace was not a surprise in Valencia, especially after the new aero magic applied on the car by Newey. They will be very difficult to beat, on grip demanding tracks, like this one. But this year lotus has been really fast and, who knows where would they've been if they had a driver like Hamilton or Alonso, (not that Raikkonen isn't good enough, but I think he needs some time to settle in after his break). I guess they will be on plenty of podiums this season. and they might end 3rd in WCC. welldone lotus :clap:

McL it's time for upgrades, you've already messed up strategies and pitstops, (costing maybe the wdc) at least keep the cars pace up there... and give Button an electroshock or an enema to wake him up, :shrug:



Agree with most of this, so i presume u mean RB, Ferrari, Lotus, then Mclaren for the WCC? cos thats the way its going at the mo enless these upgrades at silverstone find them like .5 a second per lap :(
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Re: Consistency in Penalties ?

Postby cheekybru » 25 Jun 12, 10:17

Hammer278 wrote:Lol yeah Kobayashi gets a 5 place penalty for doing almost nothing wrong, and Malda***** loses 1 solitary stupid point for ramming his car into another WDC contender while he's off the track. Stellar job from the stewards again, thumbs up. :thumbup:


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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby MACH141 » 25 Jun 12, 10:24

PartsaS wrote:Redbull's pace was not a surprise in Valencia, especially after the new aero magic applied on the car by Newey. They will be very difficult to beat, on grip demanding tracks, like this one. But this year lotus has been really fast and, who knows where would they've been if they had a driver like Hamilton or Alonso, (not that Raikkonen isn't good enough, but I think he needs some time to settle in after his break). I guess they will be on plenty of podiums this season. and they might end 3rd in WCC. welldone lotus :clap:

McL it's time for upgrades, you've already messed up strategies and pitstops, (costing maybe the wdc) at least keep the cars pace up there... and give Button an electroshock or an enema to wake him up, :shrug:



Yes that's true its time for upgrades but if you remember back in 2010 when Hamilton won the Turkish and Canadian race and in the race post he says " Mclaren in very good position now and they are waiting for the new upgrades in Silverstone ( the diffuser ) and they confident to continua winning. But at Silverstone the upgrades was bad to the cars and at that point they know the lost the season.

So the point is they have to make sure that they will find some great updates or i think Mclaren shall be No. 4 this year.( hopefully I'm wrong ).
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby LRW » 25 Jun 12, 11:08

How times change.... or not...

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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby elfinitty » 25 Jun 12, 11:35

Pity I missed that.3 Ferrari drivers! Notice that even Kimi didn't even have a little change,even his pose :rofl:
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby darwin dali » 25 Jun 12, 12:17

LRW wrote:How times change.... or not...

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Even the expressions are the same! :P
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby darwin dali » 25 Jun 12, 12:19

PartsaS wrote: and give Button an electroshock or an enema to wake him up, :shrug:

Send him to Momma - I can help him with that! :whip: :whip:
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby Frontrunner » 25 Jun 12, 12:25

What I found funny about what Pastor said, "he left me no room". After watching a replay of the race, Pastor gives F#%# all room either, He gave no room to Webber at the last corner and to Kimi aswell I think at another corner and forcing both of them to run wide. which is fine, lots of drivers shove others of a bit wide to gain/hold position.

All I'm saying is, If you dish it out, you take it aswell.

It will be interesting from now how other drivers will battle with Maldo from now on.
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby madbrad » 25 Jun 12, 12:30

Maldo is correct. Lewis didn't give him any room. What he forgets is Lewis didn't have to give him any room.
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby LRW » 25 Jun 12, 12:34

Frontrunner wrote:It will be interesting from now how other drivers will battle with Maldo from now on.


Hopefully t-bone him off the circuit...
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Re: 2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

Postby geetface9 » 25 Jun 12, 12:36

didn't The Revered One do the same kinda sh1t?
Not bad for a #2 driver
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