Explosion and fire in Williams garage

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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby acosmichippo » 14 May 12, 21:23

madbrad wrote:Andrew mentioned what I was afraid to: that no one, except those trained and assigned to, should really have done anything at all. Yes their bravery is admirable but if I did that at work and got injured, and a few did, as I am trying to get Workmen's Comp they would ask me what the he77 I was doing fighting a fire. I'm an electrician not an emergency response technician. I could get in trouble.


Well, anyone working in that kind of environment should have at least some kind of emergency training.

Funny how a passenger is in the right to kick another one off a train, but an employee in a garage is in the wrong to put out a fire...
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby madbrad » 14 May 12, 21:25

Yes I believe if I am standing in 6" of water I am "earthed".
You could be holding some metal thing that is grounded but there would need to be something live touching you to electrocute you. And if everything is built right, anything live should be now dead, if water can provide a path from it to ground, the breaker would trip. KERS is of course not part of the world, but in an isolated car, but it too could have such a provision in it. Not only from water exposure but in response to faults, overheating etc.
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby Jabberwocky » 14 May 12, 21:25

I have just watched the incident on Sky F1, a few things struck me,
one was the amount of people who just stood there gawping and not helping, the number of people who just thought it looked like a good photo opportunity, and the The Maldonado party, went for women and trophies first.
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby acosmichippo » 14 May 12, 21:36

The Maldonados are fortunate in that their women and trophies are the same things.
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby myownalias » 14 May 12, 21:49

madbrad wrote:Andrew mentioned what I was afraid to: that no one, except those trained and assigned to, should really have done anything at all. Yes their bravery is admirable but if I did that at work and got injured, and a few did, as I am trying to get Workmen's Comp they would ask me what the he77 I was doing fighting a fire. I'm an electrician not an emergency response technician. I could get in trouble.

Given the amount of time it took for the 'emergency' services to arrive, if the mechanics didn't act, half the pit complex would have been burnt to crisp!
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby madbrad » 14 May 12, 22:06

Agreed. I'm just saying that I am instructed in my orientation each new job I go to about what to do and where to assemble when the alarm goes off or you know there's a fire or some such emergency. On some jobs(not most), you're supposed to grab an extinguisher, if within X feet, and try for like a minute or less to quell a very tiny fire at most. Beyond that, GTFO. Maybe pull the pull station if necessary.
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby madbrad » 14 May 12, 22:06

acosmichippo wrote:The Maldonados are fortunate in that their women and trophies are the same things.

That saved a lot of time!
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby acosmichippo » 14 May 12, 22:08

They should implement this fire suppression system:

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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby Jabberwocky » 14 May 12, 22:13



you would be gutted if you left your window open
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby myownalias » 14 May 12, 22:16

I prefer the Star Trek TNG solution, surround the fire with a force field and remove all the oxygen... works brilliantly, only downside is that if people were still in the garage, they'd suffocate!
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby Jabberwocky » 14 May 12, 22:17

myownalias wrote:I prefer the Star Trek TNG solution, surround the fire with a force field and remove all the oxygen... works brilliantly, only downside is that if people were still in the garage, they'd suffocate!


unless they all wore space suits
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby bud » 14 May 12, 22:19

myownalias wrote:
madbrad wrote:Andrew mentioned what I was afraid to: that no one, except those trained and assigned to, should really have done anything at all. Yes their bravery is admirable but if I did that at work and got injured, and a few did, as I am trying to get Workmen's Comp they would ask me what the he77 I was doing fighting a fire. I'm an electrician not an emergency response technician. I could get in trouble.

Given the amount of time it took for the 'emergency' services to arrive, if the mechanics didn't act, half the pit complex would have been burnt to crisp!

To be an F1 mechanic you'd go through basic fire training, risk of fire in Motorsport is great so they have to learn the basics.
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby Jabberwocky » 14 May 12, 22:21

I thought it was a legal requirement (in the UK) that all employees undertake fire and first aid training.
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby acosmichippo » 14 May 12, 22:46

Is that before or after tea brewing training?
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Re: Explosion and fire in Williams garage

Postby Jabberwocky » 14 May 12, 23:41

acosmichippo wrote:Is that before or after tea brewing training?



after, it would silly to do it before
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